Stephen Boynton, a member of Acton Baptist Church in Granbury since 1967, recently retired as a lieutenant after 34 years of service with the Fort Worth Fire Department. He currently serves on the volunteer fire department in his community, which he has done since 1979. Boynton also published The Adventures of Slade the Fire Dog, a children’s book illustrated by fellow church member Katie Toon.

From deep in the heart of one Texan, Boynton shares his background and thoughts on being a follower of Christ in public service. To suggest a Texas Baptist leader in public service to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

Background

Where do you currently serve?

My wife and I—along with another couple—teach a married couples Sunday school class at our church. I have taught Sunday school for 35 years. I sing in the choir, serve on the hospitality committee, the Missions Advisory Council, the security team and have served as a deacon since 1991.

Where else have you served, and what were your positions there?

I have been yellow cap certified with the Texas Baptist Men for many years, working in Texas on Hurricanes Ike and Harvey; the West, Texas, disaster; and in Florida on Hurricane Irma.

Where did you grow up?

After my dad retired from the Navy in 1967, we moved to Granbury, my mother’s hometown, and I have lived here in the Acton community ever since.

How did you come to faith in Christ?

After a good old Southern Baptist revival at our church, I asked Christ into my heart. I was 7 years old.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

After two undisciplined years of college at Tarleton State University, I took a job in Fort Worth in 1982. About 10 years ago, I returned to college and received a Bachelor of Arts degree in organizational leadership from Mountain State University in West Virginia.

Life in public service

Why do you feel called into public service?

As my career started out, God opened doors for me that only he could. I always had been drawn to disasters and times of trouble, especially the aftermath. My interest in those things led me to being called into the fire service.

How does being a Christian influence your decisions in public service?

I think it was because I was a Christian that I was drawn to help people physically during perhaps the roughest moments of their lives. As Christians, we are reminded everything is temporary—even terrible, heart-wrenching times. It also helps to remember God is always in control.

What is your favorite aspect of public service? Why?

It might sound funny, but saving people’s lives is incredible. But probably being able to bring order from chaos, on a personal level and a community level, is my favorite because we do it so often.

What one aspect of public service gives you the greatest joy?

It has to be saving people’s lives, or more appropriately, helping in saving someone’s life. To see and be a part of a well-trained crew, working swiftly and quickly to save a person’s life is beyond words. The satisfaction the Lord gives you in that situation is terrific.

What one aspect of public service would you like to change?

The impact it has on responders and, ultimately, their families. The stresses of the work schedule and the impact of the trauma responders see regularly are very damaging. As a civilization, we need people to do the work of a public servant, but we are not taking care of those who take care of us.

What is the impact of public service on your family?

Without an understanding wife, I wouldn’t be writing this today. She understood my calling and has been dealing with it ever since we started dating. I missed important family times, church events, all measure of things during my career. I hope it has shown my sons how important public service is and how satisfying it is to be in God’s will for your life.

What did you learn on the job you wish you learned elsewhere?

How beautiful and selfless people can be. Sometimes it takes a disaster to remind us of that.

How has your place in public service changed you?

I am much more aware than a lot of people of just how fragile this life really is. I’ve been beside lots of people when they died, and that tends to affect your outlook. I know the Lord can call you at any moment. I strive to be ready.

How do you expect public service to change in the next 10 to 20 years?

In urban and suburban areas, I think the sheer number of calls for service will become the most pressing problem. However, each advance in emergency medicine and firefighting—especially in what we call PPE, or personal protective equipment—will make it safer for first responders in all phases.

In rural areas, funding for all aspects of the service will need to be secured.

Name the three most significant challenges and/or influences facing your area of public service.

As always, funding is a very big challenge.

As a volunteer fire chief, I am very concerned about the lack of people willing to make the commitment to volunteer in their community. Without volunteers, there is no volunteer fire or EMS service.

Mental health for responders will need to get more coverage. People can’t see the things seen by first responders and not be affected.

What do you wish more people knew about public service?

The satisfaction one gets by being part of a family of people dedicated to a common goal. The camaraderie of the service. Yes, it is a big commitment, but it is worth it.

About Baptists

Why are you a Baptist?

Well, first off, our fellowships are the best, no doubt. And I love the Cooperative Program, as well. But seriously, when I was young, I was a Baptist probably because my parents were. We were at the church every time the doors were open. As an adult and having studied the Scriptures, I think the Baptists have it very close to right. There are some things we do that make me scratch my head, but overall, I like what we stand for.

What are the key issues facing Baptists—denominationally and/or congregationally?

I think we Baptists have allowed ourselves to be painted into several corners where we don’t need to be. On many current issues—homosexuality, immigration, the authenticity of the Scriptures and feminism, just to name a few—our silence or passivity has allowed the media and other groups to define to the public where we stand and what we believe, and most times this is incorrect, of course. The church’s silence has harmed us.

What would you change about the Baptist denomination—state, nation or local?

To quote one of my favorite jokes: “How many Baptists does it take to change a light bulb? Change?”

I guess I would lighten us up from our desire to follow all the rules perfectly. Following the rules perfectly can’t be done; people are imperfect. Love people like God does, and the rest is easy. Focus on the sinner, not the sin.

About Stephen

Who were/are your mentors, and how did/do they influence you?

My father’s service to his country during World War II and Korea probably shaped my career more than I really know. Both my parents were godly people and a great influence on me. I miss them every day.

I had many great Sunday school teachers in my day. They showed me commitment to my home church, to the Scriptures and to the Lord.

Other than the Bible, name some of your favorite books or authors, and explain why.

C.S. Lewis is a hard one to top. He just says things the way they should be said.

After having two sons, Robert Lewis’ book Raising a Modern-Day Knight was a great influence on me and my circle of friends.

Norman Maclean and his son John N. Maclean both wrote great books on very tragic forest fires, and those books helped us understand things like we had not previously. Great storytellers.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

Psalms 46:10—“Be still and know that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations. I will be exalted in all the earth.”

I love the idea of being still. Easy to say, hard to do. I guess in my line of work, in all that I’ve seen, peace and silence look very good to me.

Who is your favorite Bible character, other than Jesus? Why?

King David. How can you not love and admire a man God said was a “man after my own heart?” He was such a man’s man, flawed and all, yet God used him in such great ways. I’ll take some of that.

Name something about you that would surprise people who know you.

I read a lot of books as a child and still do. I remember some great children’s books. After I retired, I wrote a children’s book and had it published. I have now written 6 more books and am waiting to get those published, as well.

If you could get one “do over” in public service, what would it be, and why?

I would pay more attention to the hurt people suffer. At the least, a kind word here or there might make a difference in someone’s life.

Grant Byrd has been a youth minister since 1981 and has served First Baptist Church in McKinney since 1991. From deep in the heart of one Texan, he shares his background and thoughts on church and ministry. To suggest a Baptist General Convention of Texas-affiliated minister to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

Background

Where else have you served in ministry, and what were your positions there?

While in college and seminary, I served churches in Burleson, Throckmorton and Mount Pleasant, Texas, and Greenwood, La. I served for five years at Second Baptist Church in Baytown. I was the youth pastor in all of these and also led music in a few of them.

Where did you grow up?

Port Neches, Texas, and First Baptist Church there.

How did you come to faith in Christ?

I grew up going to church with my parents, who loved and lived their lives for God, but at the age of 8, I understood I was lost with no hope for heaven and gave my life over to Jesus Christ.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

I attended Texas A&M University for a year and a half, then transferred to East Texas Baptist University, where I graduated in 1984 with a Bachelor of Science degree with a double major in business and religion.

I earned my Master of Arts degree in Religious Education from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in 1986.

I completed my Doctorate degree in Educational Ministry from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary with an emphasis on leadership in 2003.

Ministry life

Why do you feel called into ministry?

I was called to ministry when I was 15 years old but didn’t really answer that call until I was at Texas A&M and realized God wasn’t joking and wanted me to be in ministry. I transferred to ETBU and have had peace since then in that calling to be an equipper. I love talking to students about their calling to ministry now.

What is your favorite aspect of ministry? Why?

My favorite aspect has to be seeing a student leading a friend to a relationship with Jesus Christ. It is the best when they understand God calls them to be his disciples who disciple others.

What one aspect of ministry gives you the greatest joy?

I love going on mission trips because it is like a “microwave of learning” for students—and adults—when they have to rely on God to lead and direct them.

What one aspect of ministry would you like to change?

One aspect of ministry I would like to change is students being addicted to their phones and social media, which draws them away from real relationships and conversations.

How has your ministry or your perspective on ministry changed?

I thought I knew what I was doing back when I started in youth ministry. Now I know I don’t know what I’m doing.

How do you expect ministry to change in the next 10 to 20 years?

I think students desire relationships so much they will be drawn to the church and community, but the concerns youth pastors must face now, with the issues secular culture throws at us, will cause a return to the basics of a relationship with Jesus.

If you could launch any new ministry—individually, through your congregation or through another organization—what would it be? Why?

Either a ministry with students called to ministry or a ministry that gets students on the mission field. I think there is a great need for high school students to get training in “ministry calling” before college or seminary. I also would like to give every student an opportunity to serve on mission in a poverty-stricken community.

Name the three most significant challenges and/or influences facing your ministry.

Social media influence on teens, LGBTQ issues, “busyness” of teens.

What do you wish more laypeople knew about ministry or, specifically, your ministry?

Youth ministry is vital to teens as they develop their foundation for the life of a disciple of Jesus.

About Grant

Who were/are your mentors, and how did/do they influence you?

My mentors were my parents, Zack and Cookie Byrd, who loved God and modeled what it looks like to follow Jesus.

Wilton “Tony” Anthony, Buddy Fortenberry, Doug Fields, Stan Blossom and Jack Haye have mentored me along the way and deeply influenced my life.

What did you learn on the job you wish you learned in seminary?

Just the day-to-day duties and requirements of a minister were things seminary didn’t really teach me. I learned so much in seminary, but to start out in a pastor role was something I was barely equipped to do until I got more experience.

What is the impact of ministry on your family?

Ministry has been tough on my family, but they have been gracious to me and have been a super blessing to me as I led both my kids as their youth pastor.

My wife has been amazing as a minister’s wife. She has helped so many as she counseled them and loved them to live for Jesus.

My son, Keegan Byrd, is serving as the minister of music at First Baptist Church in Van Alstyne.

My daughter, Darby Byrd, is studying ministry at Ouachita Baptist University.

One of my biggest concerns as a dad was that my kids might dislike the church because we were there so much, but God was good to allow them to fall in love with Jesus and the church at an early age.

Other than the Bible, name some of your favorite books or authors, and explain why.

Mark Batterson has a lot of books I love, but In a Pit With a Lion on a Snowy Day is my favorite.

Doug Fields has many books that are helpful, but Your First Two Years in Youth Ministry is my favorite.

Andy Stanley, Jim Burns, Duffy Robbins and John Grisham are also are favorite authors of mine.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

Ephesians 2:10 says, “For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works which he prepared in advance for us to do.” God has a great plan for us. He made us and then laid out a great life plan for us to choose to follow.

Who is your favorite Bible character, other than Jesus? Why?

A little-known guy named Shamgar in Judges 3:31 did what he could with what he had where he was. What a great message for us today!

Name something about you that would surprise people who know you.

I really do believe this is the Dallas Cowboys’ year to win it all.

If you could get one “do over” in ministry, what would it be, and why?

I wish I would have written down more of my first learning experiences in student ministry so I could pass them along to younger ministers.

What are you excited about as you enter your 39th year in ministry?

I love working with teens and equipping them to lead their friends to Jesus and then disciple them; so, I look forward to discipling a small group this year.

I also am excited about being an adjunct professor of student ministry at Dallas Baptist University. This is a new adventure for me to teach in a university setting, and I am really excited about it.

Bruce Webb has been pastor of The Woodlands First Baptist Church since 2007. From deep in the heart of one Texan, he shares his background and thoughts on church and ministry. To suggest a Baptist General Convention of Texas-affiliated minister to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

Background

Where else have you served in ministry, and what were your positions there?

While in college, I served on staff part-time at First Baptist Church in Stanton, Calvary Baptist Church in San Marcos and First Baptist Church in Floresville.

While in seminary, I served part-time at Creede Baptist Church in Creede, Colo., and University Baptist Church in Fort Worth.

Although they were summer and part-time positions, I mention those churches because they were very important in clarifying my call to be a pastor. It is probably safe to say those church experiences did more for me than I did for them.

I have had the privilege of being the senior pastor of three Texas churches: The Island Baptist Church on South Padre Island (1991 to 1998), Central Baptist Church in Jacksonville (1998 to 2007), and my current position.

Where did you grow up?

I grew up in Big Spring, Texas.

How did you come to faith in Christ?

My mother died when I was 6 years old. I learned of her death when some family friends brought my brother to my elementary school. When I saw them, I thought they were coming to take me fishing. Instead, the family friends drove off, and my 15-year-old brother, Bob Webb, walked me to my grandmother’s house and told me Mom had died.

I remember us both crying and Bob praying for us. From that moment, I had an awareness of the importance of eternal life, that it was possible to die, and that I needed to have a relationship with Jesus.

Our family did not have much money, and my brother Bob and I slept in the same bed. When I was 7 years old, I remember him sharing the plan of salvation with me as we were going to bed.

I understood what it meant to be saved, but I told him I wasn’t ready. He didn’t try to pressure me but told me I was going to be a great Christian someday. I always will be grateful for that.

When I was 15 years old, a girl I liked in the youth group at East Fourth Street Baptist Church invited me to go to youth choir. I already was a member of the Sunday School there, but I rarely attended after my mother’s death. But I liked to sing, and I liked girls.

When I went, someone invited me to play on the church league softball team. The rule was you had to attend church the Sunday before the game in order to be able to play.

So, I went to church because of girls, choir and softball, but as I attended the services, I became aware that God loved me and wanted to do something significant with my life.

During a Lord’s Supper service as the elements were being passed, I refused to take the bread or the cup because I knew I wasn’t a Christian. I determined when the service was over, I was going to commit my life to Jesus. For the first time I ever can remember, the pastor didn’t give an invitation, and we didn’t sing multiple verses of “Just As I Am.” It was very unusual.

When the service concluded, the pastor called on someone to close in prayer, and as he walked to the back of the sanctuary to shake people out, I stepped into the aisle, grabbed his arm and said, “Brother Guy, I want to be a Christian.”

I was saved at that moment. The Holy Spirit had spoken to me for months through Matthew 10:32-33, which says: “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.”

I was afraid to be open about my faith. The moment I did, Jesus was right there to save me. I was 15 years old, and it was the best decision I ever have made.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

I graduated from Big Spring High School. I have a music degree from Texas State University (1987), a Master of Divinity degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (1991) and a Doctor of Ministry degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (1995).

About ministry

Why do you feel called into ministry?

Because God called and motivated me to share with others the incredible grace and love I have received from him.

How has your ministry or your perspective on ministry changed?

The last few years, it has become clear to me the importance of helping our youth hear the call to local church ministry. After spending my sabbatical in England preaching at a small Baptist church for 10 weeks, I think the Holy Spirit helped me see this. The people in the church I served seemed eager and ready to reach out to a growing community, but there are so few young people being called to Christian ministry. It is a crisis in Europe, and unless something changes fast, it will be a crisis in the United States, as well.

Churches needs pastors who are called, educated and enthusiastic about reaching people for Christ. Without them, the future is in question. This means Christian parents and churches need to find ways to encourage their students to consider a calling to local church ministry and provide opportunities for them to serve in the church as interns. A potential call to ministry is solidified by doing ministry.

Name the three most significant challenges and/or influences facing your ministry.

• Handling the LGBTQ issue correctly.
• Addressing the destructiveness of internet pornography.
• Cultivating young, emotionally and spiritually healthy ministers.

About Baptists

What are the key issues facing Baptists—denominationally and/or congregationally?

One of the major issues facing Baptists is the acceptance or rejection of women in ministry.

It is absolutely possible to have the highest view of Scripture and believe women can serve as ministers within the local church. In fact, my belief in favor of women in ministry is not in spite of the Bible but precisely because of the teaching of the Bible.

I am not suggesting and would never ask someone to reject or ignore what the Bible says about women. I am asking people to be willing to look at what the Scripture actually teaches rather than allowing tradition alone to determine their position. Good, sincere Christian people disagree about the issue, but I respectfully am encouraging people to take a second, biblical look. I have a sermon entitled What God Wants Women To Be should anyone be interested in exploring this further.

Why is this so important? There is a shortage of younger ministers called to serve the local church. If we tell half the population of Christians they cannot serve the local church in ministry, we are working against ourselves.

We also are communicating by our actions that any young woman who does feel called to ministry needs to leave Baptist life in order to serve. The denominations to which young women are forced to move often do not have a high view of Scripture.

We need young men and women called to serve the local church to have a high view of Scripture, a firm commitment to its truthfulness, and a passion for Jesus and the local church.

About Bruce

Who were/are your mentors, and how did/do they influence you?

My three main mentors in ministry have been Bob Webb, Randel Everett and Paul Powell.

I learned from my older brother Bob what it meant to be an authentic Christian and pastor.

I served as Randel Everett’s pastoral intern when he was pastor of University Baptist Church in Fort Worth and while I was in seminary. His memorization of Scripture was inspiring to me, as was his preaching. Randel was the first pastor I ever encountered who knew how to cast a vision that was clear enough people could follow.

Paul Powell was my mentor for over 25 years. He didn’t choose me, but I definitely chose him. He and two other large church Baptist pastors showed up at South Padre Island on my second Sunday as a senior pastor.

My sermon wasn’t very good, but while the other pastors were talking Baptist politics, Paul went out to his car and got one of his books, signed it, gave it to me, and told me how proud he was of me. I followed up with a thank you letter and an invitation for him to come do a revival at my church. He accepted, and I pursued him until he adopted me as one of his boys.

When something great happened to me in ministry, Paul was always one of my first calls because he was legitimately happy for me. When something happened and I needed advice, he was my first call.

He recommended me to Central Baptist in Jacksonville and First Baptist Church of The Woodlands.

I remember telling him once that I didn’t know how I could ever appropriately do something for him to show my gratitude, and he said, “Do it for someone else.” I have tried.

One of the greatest privileges of my life was to speak at Paul’s funeral, and I didn’t know how much I would miss him until he was gone. I love Paul and Cathy Powell.

What is the impact of ministry on your family?

Nancy and I have served in three imperfect churches as senior pastor, and that has made us a really good match because we are imperfect, too. All three churches we have served have loved us and our three girls, and we have loved them, too. They allowed us to be ourselves, and our girls have had very positive experiences as pastor’s kids, for the most part.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

I love the Bible far too much to be able to choose one or two as my favorites. It seems like the passage I am studying to teach on any given week is my favorite at the time, but here are several of my favorites.

John 1:14 says: “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.”

In so many places, it’s all grace and no truth, or all truth and no grace. In Jesus, however, grace and truth intersect, and that is what I am going for in my ministry and our church is striving for, as well.

Galatians 5:22-23 says: “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.”

Too often, we evaluate ourselves and others in ministry by the gifts of the Spirit, rather than by the fruit of the Spirit. It was life-changing for me when I realized giftedness doesn’t mean the Holy Spirit is working through us. It just means we are talented.

The real measure of whether the Holy Spirit is working in our lives is the fruit of the Spirit. So, for me, the fruit of the Spirit is a constant check on authentic ministry that pleases God.

1 Corinthians 15:58 says: “Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.”

This verse is special to me because I memorized it when I was 15 years old and had just given my life to Jesus. I used to walk down the hall of my high school quoting that passage and praying God would help me be a good witness.

Whenever I hear or think of that verse, it reminds me of the passion I had when I first became a Christian, and it reminds me it needs to continue to be true of my life.

What is the key to a successful ministry?

One of the keys is a spouse who loves the Lord and is committed to Jesus, as well. I met my wife Nancy on a Baptist Student Ministry ski trip, and she has been a wonderful partner in ministry. My advice is to marry well.

Jason Atchley has been the lead pastor of Bacon Heights Baptist Church in Lubbock since 2015 and is the second vice president of the Baptist General Convention of Texas. From deep in the heart of one Texan, he shares his background and thoughts on church and ministry. To suggest a Baptist General Convention of Texas-affiliated minister to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

Background

Where else have you served in ministry, and what were your positions there?

Prior to arriving at Bacon Heights Baptist Church, I served as discipleship and family pastor at First Baptist Church in Decatur, student pastor at First Baptist Church in Round Rock, student pastor at First Baptist Church in Canyon, youth and music minister at First Baptist Church in Hamlin, and youth and music minister at Jonesboro Baptist Church in Jonesboro.

Where did you grow up?

I grew up in Midland and was a part of the faith family at Crestview Baptist Church.

How did you come to faith in Christ?

I came to faith in Christ at church camp when I learned that faith in Christ was not tribal faith. I grew up with amazing Christian parents, and we were heavily involved in our local church. I simply thought going to church and having parents who love Jesus meant I could go to heaven. After riding the coattails of my parents faith for 11 years, I gave my life to Christ at the age of 12 and received his grace and mercy, and my life has never been the same.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

I am blessed to have received an outstanding education and represent two of our best Baptist universities. I hold a Bachelor of Arts degree in religious education from Howard Payne University. I received my Master of Divinity and Doctor of Ministry degrees from Hardin-Simmons University.

Ministry life

Why do you feel called into ministry?

I feel called into ministry to serve the local church and to equip families to reach the next generation of leaders and ministers and leave a legacy of faith.

What is your favorite aspect of ministry? Why?

My favorite aspect of ministry is proclaiming God’s word through preaching and teaching. I believe God’s word is powerful and applicable to every situation we encounter. Having the privilege and enormous responsibility to share truth from the Bible is exhilarating but also scary.

What one aspect of ministry gives you the greatest joy?

My greatest joy is working with the amazing team of ministers at Bacon Heights.

What one aspect of ministry would you like to change?

I would love to change the aspect that pastors have it all together and so do their families. I don’t know how to change this, but I know being a pastor puts a lot of pressure and stress on one’s spouse and children.

How has your ministry or your perspective on ministry changed?

My ministry has changed simply by changing roles, but my perspective on ministry has changed from seeing the church as the primary place for families to viewing the home as the primary place for families. I am a huge believer in the D6 movement—from Deuteronomy—and the partnership shared between the local church and the home, what we call the “Domestic Church.”

About Baptists

What are the key issues facing Baptists—denominationally and/or congregationally?

Two key issues I see are, first, women and ministry and clearly defining their importance and value in the life of the local church, and second, speaking into and getting involved in the immigration crisis. The church is the answer!

What would you change about the Baptist denomination—state, nation or local?

Dr. David Hardage has done an amazing job telling the story of Texas Baptists, but I pray for the day when Texas returns to one state convention.

About Jason

Who were/are your mentors, and how did/do they influence you?

I am beyond blessed to have been influenced and mentored by men I consider giants of our faith and denomination.

My father, Richard Atchley, is by far my greatest mentor. He always has provided me sound wisdom and advice.

Jon Randles spoke life into my ministry and gave me the courage to stand on principle.

Dr. David Lowrie modeled how gentleness and kindness can conquer any conflict.

Dr. Gary Gramling and Dr. George Gaston taught me how to be transparent and honest in speech, action and emotion.

What did you learn on the job you wish you learned in seminary?

I wish the business aspect of ministry was taught in our seminaries and the different financial information required to lead the church. Managing the budget and financial stewardship would be helpful to young ministers.

What is the impact of ministry on your family?

The impact is hard on all families, and pastors must protect their families’ time and privacy. Establishing boundaries will help soften the blow on spouses and kids.

Other than the Bible, name some of your favorite books or authors, and explain why.

The Cost of Discipleship by Dietrich Bonhoeffer and most works by him are treasures of mine. His love for the church and ability to learn and express joy despite his circumstances is incredible.

Canoeing the Mountains by Tod Bolsinger is a fantastic book on leadership. Everything rises and falls on leadership and providing organizational leadership is critical.

Church + Home by Mark Holmen is a great resource on how to establish a viable family ministry.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

My favorite Bible verse is Isaiah 7:9b which says, “If you do not stand firm in your faith, then you will not stand at all.”

I think it is the challenge all of us need and the reminder that our faith, not our political talking points, is where we stand.

Scott Sharman has been the senior pastor of Alsbury Baptist Church in Burleson since it was planted in 1994. From deep in the heart of one Texan, he shares his background and thoughts on church and ministry. To suggest a Baptist General Convention of Texas-affiliated minister to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

Background

Where else have you served in ministry, and what were your positions there?

I served for five years at Calvary Baptist Church in Burleson, the church through which Alsbury was planted. This is the only community in which I have served.

Where did you grow up?

Albuquerque, N.M.

How did you come to faith in Christ?

I was led to Christ by my next-door neighbor in Albuquerque when I was 16.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

• Wayland Baptist University, Bachelor of Arts degree
• Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Master of Divinity degree
• Logsdon Seminary, Doctor of Ministry degree

What one class or seminar in your education impacted you most and why?

Systematic Theology with David Kirkpatrick at Southwestern Seminary because he challenged every preconception I brought with me.

Ministry life

Why do you feel called into ministry?

Shortly after salvation, I sensed a call to the ministry and enrolled at Wayland to prepare. While at Wayland, I began to work in radio and continued in that profession following graduation. Ten years later, while active at First Baptist Church in Odessa, I sensed a renewed call to ministry and moved to Fort Worth to attend seminary. I have been in pastoral ministry since.

What is your favorite aspect of ministry? Why?

Equipping others for active ministry leadership. I am greatly encouraged when someone expresses the joy of seeing the Lord use him or her in meaningful ministry to hurting people.

What one aspect of ministry gives you the greatest joy?

We have a significant ministry to people who live with special needs. Many of our adults have been with our church since it was planted and serve the body with their gifts and abilities. This brings me great joy.

What one aspect of ministry would you like to change?

We live in a time when people choose a church or remain with a church family because of “what they get out of it.” The consumerism that shapes so much of the modern American church has done great damage.

How has your ministry or your perspective on ministry changed?

As our church has grown, my personal involvement in pastoral ministry has decreased. Time and needs simply prevent me from meeting with all people at their times of need. While this allows others to become involved in pastoral care, my personal engagement has decreased.

How do you expect ministry to change in the next 10 to 20 years?

I expect the church will move more and more toward smaller, home-based small groups rather than the large corporate gatherings we see today. The church will grow smaller in order to accomplish far more personal ministry.

If you could launch any new ministry—individually, through your congregation or through another organization—what would it be? Why?

A church-planting ministry that focuses on small home groups. I believe this is essential to seeing true spiritual transformation within the community of believers.

Name the three most significant challenges and/or influences facing your ministry.

1. Consumerism,
2. The view that church involvement is simply one of many options for a family, and
3. The taking of offense by individuals within a church fellowship resulting in an unwillingness to forgive and broken relationships.

What do you wish more laypeople knew about ministry or, specifically, your ministry?

How much it hurts when people to whom you have sincerely tried to minister leave the fellowship over petty issues.

About Baptists

What are the key issues facing Baptists—denominationally and/or congregationally?

Nationalism, immigration, politicizing the pulpit, affirming women in service and ministry.

What would you change about the Baptist denomination—state, nation or local?

I want to see ministers function within a larger “tent,” or “circle,” so that equally sincere students of Scripture who arrive at different conclusions over interpretive issues are included in shared ministry and fellowship. We should err on the side of inclusion.

About Scott

Who were/are your mentors, and how did/do they influence you?

• H. Bailey Stone, my pastor while at First Baptist Church in Odessa.
• Jerrell Elston, the pastor I followed at Calvary Baptist Church in Burleson. Jerrell helped me in so many ways as I learned how to serve a church family.
• Steve Garrett, a lifelong friend who held me accountable through many years of ministry. Steve died of ALS, and I miss him and our friendship deeply.
Frankie Rainey, who served at Crestmont Baptist Church in Burleson. I met with Frankie weekly for several years, and he mentored me in many areas of pastoral responsibility.

What did you learn on the job you wish you learned in seminary?

That many equally sincere people arrive at different conclusions regarding their interpretation of Scripture, and we can discuss those differences without demonizing the other party.

What is the impact of ministry on your family?

My family struggled through my first years in pastoral ministry. My career change was challenging for them. Over time, we worked through the issues, but those first few years were difficult.

Other than the Bible, name some of your favorite books or authors, and explain why.

• John Stott’s various commentaries and The Cross of Christ because of the very practical insight he provides.
• N.T. Wright has challenged me to preach hope to the hopeless.
• Various works by Dietrich Bonhoeffer always challenge me over how committed I am to serve Christ fully within the messiness of the local church.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

1 Peter 2:9. “You are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.”

This is a glorious declaration of who we are and the work we have been called to.

Who is your favorite Bible character, other than Jesus? Why?

Paul. He never lost sight of his own wretchedness and knew the grace of God was the only reason he was included in the kingdom, much less given the incredible task of being the witness to the Gentiles.

Name something about you that would surprise people who know you.

I am an introvert and am quite uncomfortable in crowds of people. I prefer to be alone than with others.

If you could get one “do over” in ministry, what would it be, and why?

I would have focused far more upon my family than upon my education and my pastoral responsibilities during the early years of ministry.

Joel Gallegos, a member of Live Oak Community Church in Lubbock, has worked in the oil and gas industry, especially beam well analysis, for 12 years. From deep in the heart of one Texan, Gallegos shares his background and thoughts on being a follower of Christ in the marketplace. To suggest a Texas Baptist leader in the marketplace to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

Background

Where did you grow up?

I grew up in Plains, Texas, a small, rural community in West Texas.

How did you come to faith in Christ?

My family and I attended Templo Bautista in Plains. I was involved in Royal Ambassadors and youth and committed my life to Jesus Christ while in high school. Shortly after graduation, I moved away to attend college. I connected with Alliance Church in Lubbock several years later and recommitted my life to my Savior. It was at Alliance where my faith was rekindled by strong Christian leaders.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

I received my Master of Business Administration degree with a general business major from Wayland Baptist University.

Life in the marketplace

How does being a Christian influence your decisions in the marketplace?

Scripture has given me direction in handling situations, whether it involves coaching an employee, receiving correction or speaking encouragement. We are asked to work or do anything we do as unto Christ, not man, and to do it in a joyful manner.

What is your favorite aspect of the marketplace? Why?

The oil and gas industry is very cyclical, and this presents challenges. However, within those challenges, opportunities for improvements arise and force you to be efficient with less resources. Out of necessity creativity abounds.

Name the three most significant challenges and/or influences facing your place in the market.

In new oil and gas developing areas, the existing infrastructure is not capable of handling the new oilfield traffic. This has pros and cons. Many landowners are now commanding higher fees for their land. The vehicle traffic accident and mortality rate is at an all-time high for some areas in West Texas.

The decline in number of experienced workforce is a challenge. In the last downturn, the oil and gas experience drove many new or aspiring employees to seek other careers, some choosing not to come back.

What do you wish more people knew about the marketplace?

The oil and gas industry is composed of many disciplines. You have a team dedicated to drilling the well. One team services the well, and another team designs the equipment used to produce the oil. Other teams include construction, handling everything above the well, and support teams like HSE—health, safety and environment—and consultants.

About Baptists

What are the key issues facing Baptists—denominationally and/or congregationally?

Baptist are facing an identity crisis, and the problem is they aren’t aware of it.

Believers are self-deceived partly due to messages that tickle their ears and speak on emotions and appreciation.

Baptist are concerned with the number of baptisms and use it as a gauge for the congregation’s impact.

About Joel

Who were/are your mentors, and how did/do they influence you?

My dad, Evodio Gallegos, is a great influence. Growing up in a different denomination, he came to saving grace, and his life’s testimony led my mom, sisters and me to salvation. My dad’s conversion caused him to be mocked and ridiculed for his faith. He did not waver, and his faith remains steadfast. He knew the cost of following Jesus and girded himself for the challenge.

Roberto Ordonez was key in spiritual growth. He took me under his wing for four years and guided me in Scripture. He taught me to study Scripture, and because of this, I followed in his steps and started a Sunday Life Group. He expected me to read a chapter and come prepared to teach him what I learned in my studies. I value the time he devoted to my development, and my desire is to provide the same guidance to a young believer.

Other than the Bible, name some of your favorite books or authors, and explain why.

John Maxwell is tops on my reading list. His books allow me to sharpen my leadership skills. Recently, I was given Failing Forward: Turning Mistakes Into Stepping Stones by Maxwell. The title startled me because no leader seeks to fail. Yet, while reading it, I could appreciate his wisdom to touch on a sensitive topic leaders don’t discuss.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer is another author I read. His book The Cost of Discipleship provides an insightful teaching into the Sermon on the Mount. It challenges believers to evaluate one’s theology on grace, or what he calls “cheap grace,” a common problem in Christian circles.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

My spirit takes comfort in reading Ephesians 1:20-23. This is a great reminder that no matter the external or internal circumstances we face, believers have the assurance that Christ Jesus is reigning at the right hand of God. This is important because everything is subjected under Jesus’ feet, reminding us we should not devote our time worrying about the future. This does not preclude us from being active, though we know the outcome is under his dominion.

Who is your favorite Bible character, other than Jesus? Why?

I relate to Peter on so many levels. You have Peter ready to fight the soldiers when they take Jesus. Then a few hours later, a girl makes a liar of Peter when she accuses him of knowing Jesus, and Peter denies it. It is easy to be brave when surrounded by believers, yet while alone become afraid much like Peter did.

You also have Peter who boldly stepped out onto the water. The wind startled him, and he sank. I can speak about the truth and find myself questioning my faith. But I am encouraged that he who started a good work in me is seeing me out to the finish line.

Peter did not allow these episodes to define his relationship with Christ, and knowing this, I also can accept my failures and grow from them.

Name something about you that would surprise people who know you.

I’m a bookworm. I never really was until the last eight years or so. I enjoy the company of any reading material, sometimes more than having a one-on-one conversation.

Keith Skaar, a member of First Baptist Church in Midland since 1989 where he serves as a deacon and trustee, is a petroleum geologist and has worked in the oil and gas exploration business for 35 years. From deep in the heart of one Texan, Skaar shares his background and thoughts on being a follower of Christ in the marketplace. To suggest a Texas Baptist leader in the marketplace to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

Background

I love and am proud to fellowship in a Baptist body of Christ and love the cooperative work of Baptists, not only here in Texas, but throughout the world. I owe my Christian heritage to Baptists.

What other businesses have you been in, and what were your positions there?

I worked some part-time jobs in the restaurant business at night to make ends meet in the mid-1980s but have worked steady in the oil and gas business, even through that brief time period.

Where did you grow up?

My dad was a chemical engineer for Shell Oil; so, we moved around every four years. My young childhood was spent in southern Illinois, my grade school years were spent in Odessa, and my middle school and high school years were spent in Humble.

How did you come to faith in Christ?

My mother grew up in a broken home. At the invitation of some friends when she was a teenager, she accepted Christ as her Savior in the First Baptist Church of New Orleans, when Dr. J.D. Gray was pastor.

My father was the youngest child of Norwegian immigrants. He was serving as a young GI at the end of World War II, building barracks for Lackland Air Base in San Antonio, when he made his public profession of faith and was obedient in baptism at Riverside Baptist Church.

I became a follower of Christ at the age 6. I remember attending an evening worship service with my family at Calvary Baptist Church in Edwardsville, Ill. I don’t remember anything about the sermon Rev. Freeman preached, but I remember clearly a real conviction from the Spirit urging me to go forward at the altar call to acknowledge I was a sinner in need of a Savior.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

I graduated from Humble High School in 1980 and Baylor University in 1984 with a Bachelor of Science degree in geology and a petroleum major.

Life in the marketplace

Why do you feel called into the marketplace?

As a teenager, a small group of men in my church, Forest Cove Baptist Church in Humble, were owners or partners of independent companies in the domestic oil and gas business. After services, they always seemed to gather in a group and talk about their week in business while everyone else broke into groups defined most by their friendships.

I never noticed a group of accountants gather together to talk accounting or engineers gathering to review the events of their week. My Dad was an engineer, but I never saw him gather with other engineers to talk “shop.”

I became fascinated by what these independent oil and gas men did. As they provided me opportunities to observe and experience their business during my collegiate years, I knew the oil and gas industry was for me.

Even as the domestic industry collapsed in the late 1980s and struggled all through the 1990s, in all my career trials, I never lost faith that our Lord called me to be a geologist in the oil and gas business to fulfill a purpose.

How does being a Christian influence your decisions in the marketplace?

To paraphrase some Scriptures:

“Love God and love others, upon these two commands hang all the Law and Prophets.”

“He who would be greatest among you, let him be the servant of all.”

“Promotion comes neither from the east or the west, north or south, but it is the Lord who lifts up some and pulls down others.”

The world tells us we have to look out for ourselves first and foremost because no one else will. I am free to engage the marketplace each day as a follower of Christ Jesus, looking out for his interests and the interests of others, rather than being consumed each day looking out for my own.

Our Lord’s Spirit equips me to engage in the marketplace serving others, putting their interests ahead of my own because I have a “Heavenly Father who knows I have needs and gives good gifts to his children” and “longs to be gracious to me, rising up to show compassion.”

What is your favorite aspect of the marketplace? Why?

I always am amazed at the creativity of the free market. The marketplace identifies a need and creatively responds to meet those needs, rewarding those who are best at it. Certainly, in the Permian Basin oil industry, we see evidence of that each day. There are still problems to solve, but the market has found the people and development resources to keep everything growing.

I pray the church would learn from the market by identifying needs in our communities and meeting those needs, representing our Lord in service and earning the opportunity to share the words of eternal life.

The Roman emperor Justin the Apostate, who gave one last effort to push back against the Christian church, declared the problem he faced to be “ … these Christians, they not only feed their own, but they feed our hungry people as well, the Christians not only bury their dead, but they bury our dead as well.”

The early Christian Church exploded in growth throughout the Roman Empire, identifying a need in their community—which at the time was burying those who died of plague—and meeting that need. Our modern communities don’t need burial services, but our churches do need to be better at identifying our community needs and meeting those needs so they can earn the privilege of sharing the answer to the fundamental need of all humanity, which is Jesus Christ.

What one aspect of the marketplace would you like to change?

I fear the truth about service is getting lost, particularly among our young people. I have numerous young people come by my office asking for money. They are fresh out of college and are responding to a calling to serve our Lord by joining some non-denominational Christian non-profit where they have to raise their own salary in order to serve.

I never question their calling, but often wonder why they feel the only way to answer their calling to serve our Lord is in a “full-time” ministry where they have to beg family and friends of their parents to provide for their salaries.

I think the marketplace is losing more and more influence from engaged Christian young people because they don’t believe there is a place to serve our Lord in the secular world.

As a trustee of First Baptist Church in Midland, I help oversee funds that provide “personal support for Baptist missionaries serving in a foreign field.” Over the past 10 years alone, we have been privileged to provide support to more than 100 church plants through indigenous missionaries, most of whom are bivocational.

Our most effective vocational missionaries all have spent a large portion of their lives engaging in the business world before surrendering to a full-time calling. They are the best at identifying the needs of their target communities and finding the resources to meet those needs. As a result, our Lord’s church is exploding throughout the world.

About Baptists

What are the key issues facing Baptists—denominationally and/or congregationally?

One of my favorite stories in the New Testament is our Lord’s answer to Martha as she complains that Mary is not working but only enjoying fellowship and learning in the presence of our Lord. Jesus told Martha there are so many important things to worry about—such as feeding and serving the Body of Christ—but there is only one necessary thing.

Baptists in America seem to preoccupy ourselves with conflicts over some important things often to the neglect of the one necessary thing. We seem to have let our differences on important things distract us from presenting to our communities and the world our common bond—the one necessary thing.

Jesus said, “All men will know you are my disciples by the love you have one for another.” I really doubt sometimes that the world is seeing the love.

We meet as a large convention where we are supposed to gather to figure out how to cooperate together to share the words of eternal salvation with the world. We end up making scriptural pronouncements on submission of wives.

Just like Martha, we have lost focus, being distracted over important matters while neglecting the “one necessary thing.”

About Keith

Who were/are your mentors, and how did/do they influence you?

I have too many mentors to name them all. One piece of advice sticks out. Bruce Wilbanks—the first independent to drill below 20,000 feet, breaking the world’s record for drill time by six months—told me that “in this business, we are all just learning.” That wisdom applies not only to the oil and gas business but to life itself.

Other than the Bible, name some of your favorite books or authors, and explain why.

During my freshman year in college, my brother—Bill Skaar, pastor of First Baptist Church in Grand Prairie—was president of Baylor University’s Fellowship of Christian Athletes chapter, and so, I attended. That fall semester, we went through The Pursuit of Holiness by Jerry Bridges, which not only made a lasting impact on me but really introduced me to the world of Christian literature.

C.S. Lewis, Max Lucado, John Eldridge, Philip Yancey and Erwin McManus all come to mind as authors I have enjoyed and who have made significant impacts on my life at very strategic times.

I also enjoy Joel Rosenberg political thrillers.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

“All things work together for good to those who love God” (Romans 8:28), and “trust in the Lord with all thy heart and lean not on your own understanding” (Proverbs 3: 5-6) are promises that should always be fresh in our minds and hearts daily.

I have a friend walking through a tragic and dark circumstance, and obscure Scriptures come to mind, such as found in Isaiah: “A bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out.” “I’ve been young, and now I am old, but I’ve never seen the righteous forsaken or his seed begging for bread.” Like Solomon, I can say I’ve never seen his word fail. Even in the tragedy my friend is walking through now, I know one day our Lord will stand him up again as a tall reed in the wind, and his flame will shine bright again.

I don’t know how I would get through life without the promises, guidance and assurances of Scripture.

Who is your favorite Bible character, other than Jesus? Why?

Jonathan, son of Saul. Like him, all of us have been named a “son of the king.” Likewise, this is not heaven, and we all still dwell as children of God in “occupied territory.” We may think we are insignificant and can’t make an impact, but “nothing restrains the Lord from saving by many or by few” (1 Samuel 14:6). Like Jonathan, we need just to be faithful to our calling, and our Lord will do the rest.

If you could get one “do over” in the marketplace, what would it be, and why?

In a Romans 8:28 sense, I am not sure which failure, mistake or struggle God didn’t use for my good to mold me into the follower of Christ I am today. Hopefully, as I continue to mature in the faith, I’ll need a lot less discipline and will be more responsive and obedient to our Lord’s Spirit to grow in my Christian walk.

Chris Johnson has been the pastor of First Baptist Church in San Antonio since 2017. From deep in the heart of one Texan, he shares his background and thoughts on church and ministry. To suggest a Baptist General Convention of Texas-affiliated minister to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

Background

Where else have you served in ministry, and what were your positions there?

• First Baptist Church in Covington as youth minister
• Chalk Bluff Baptist Church in Waco as pastor

Where did you grow up?

Carrizo Springs, Texas

How did you come to faith in Christ?

I was born into a devout family of believers. From day one, I was in the church, leading to the blessing of knowing God and growing in the faith from childhood by accepting Christ in the children’s ministry, then deepening my faith as a youth at First Baptist Church of Carrizo Springs.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

• Baylor University, Bachelor of Arts in religion
• Truett Theological Seminary at Baylor University, Master of Divinity in theology
• Truett Theological Seminary at Baylor University, Doctor of Ministry in spiritual formation

About ministry life

Why do you feel called into ministry?

When I was a junior in high school, I began to understand God was calling me into ministry. God gifted and prepared me to become a pastor even as a youth. Every step of the way since that time, God has continued to affirm through schooling, mentors and the church that this is exactly where I am supposed to be.

What is your favorite aspect of ministry? Why?

My favorite aspect of ministry is that I am supposed to pray, and I have the privilege of praying often, even during office hours.

What one aspect of ministry gives you the greatest joy?

The greatest joy comes when someone gets it, when a light comes on and they begin to understand the peace of a deepening relationship with Jesus Christ. There is no greater feeling in ministry than when a friend finally comes to know the Lord or a church member has a spiritual breakthrough.

How do you expect ministry to change in the next 10 to 20 years?

In the coming decades, we must get back to the basics of the faith. The resurgence of the church will not be in entertaining programs but the foundational pillars of repentance, witnessing and discipleship. As the church gets back to the heart of what she was called to do, we will thrive.

What do you wish more laypeople knew about ministry or, specifically, your ministry?

Pastors have more work to complete than days in the week. Wearing so many hats, we have learned to be pastors who can produce in great quantity, but the greater quantity naturally inhibits our quality.

About Baptists

What would you change about the Baptist denomination—state, nation or local?

There are three things Baptists can learn from other denominations that would enrich our hearts and worship.

1. Confession. We do not need to confess to a minister; however, we need to learn the value and joy of confession before our Lord.

2. Art. Baptists have never been known for their art, but there is room in the church for a deeper appreciation of our creative efforts.

3. Church calendar. Baptists have little concept of the church calendar outside of Christmas and Easter. It would do us well to celebrate scriptural moments as much as—if not more so—than cultural holidays.

About Chris

What did you learn on the job you wish you learned in seminary?

I found a great educational divide on sex. One of the most shocking revelations as a pastor was how pervasive adultery was and is in our congregations and how quickly pornography is becoming an epidemic. I quickly had to learn how to talk about healthy sexual relationships and have had to use those skills often in every step of ministry.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

Exodus 14:14—“The Lord will fight for you; you need only to be still” (NIV).

During my most recent pastoral transition, my wife and I prayed for a year about the coming season, and as often as I worried, God put this passage in front of me to calm my fears.

Who is your favorite Bible character, other than Jesus? Why?

There are two who fit a similar mold: Zacchaeus (Luke 19) and the Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 8). Both men long for Jesus, and when they find him, their lives are completely changed. Zacchaeus could not wait to repent for past wrongs, and the Ethiopian could not wait to be baptized. May we meet many like Zacchaeus and the Ethiopian eunuch in our witnessing.

Name something about you that would surprise people who know you.

Bananas are my enemy. I cannot stand the smell of a banana. For April Fools’ Day, my 4-year-old daughter thought it would be funny to put a banana under my pillow so I could smell that disgusting fruit all night long.

Mike Mayer, a member of First Baptist Church in Midland since 1999, is in the oilfield service business with companies ranging from electrical savings, directional drilling, equipment rental, artificial lift, sanitation and hot shot trucking. He has been involved in these companies since as early as 2007.

From deep in the heart of one Texan, Mayer shares his background and thoughts on being a follower of Christ in the marketplace. To suggest a Texas Baptist leader in the marketplace to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

Background

What other businesses have you been in, and what were your positions there?

Once I graduated from college, I worked for an oilfield services company later bought by Schlumberger, working there for 22 years. I had positions from junior engineer in Houma, La., to business manager in Paris, France.

I left to join a family-owned business as general manager in Port of Spain, Trinidad, in the West Indies. From there, I met a man who sold me his business in Monahans, Texas, in early 1999. That business was sold in 2007, but I was asked to stay on as an adviser, eventually leaving in 2010.

Where did you grow up?

I was born near Houston but raised for the most part in Jackson, Miss. My dad worked for Gulf Oil Corporation and was transferred to Jackson, then left Gulf because he liked Jackson and the fellowship of the members of our church there. Jackson and our church proved great places to grow up physically and spiritually.

How did you come to faith in Christ?

When I was 7, I began understanding from my mother and father that there was more available for me in Christ, but I didn’t understand enough to please my pastor until I was 9. At that point, I was able to give my life to Christ publicly and be baptized in Christ at Woodland Hills Baptist Church in Jackson.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

I received a Bachelor of Science degree in business at Mississippi State University.

Life in the marketplace

Why do you feel called into the marketplace?

As bad as I wanted to do something else, I followed my dad’s footsteps into the oil field. After working 24 years for others, God allowed me to have my own business and later to partner with others. It was then I knew I had to set the example for others.

That led to starting Bible studies and feeling free to share my faith. I had taken Evangelism Explosion and Experiencing God to learn how others did it, but I finally realized my story and explanation were unique to me, and they worked fine—especially with the folks I deal with daily.

How does being a Christian influence your decisions in the marketplace?

I try to let each decision be surrounded by prayer and the “is this the right thing to do” filter, as well as the “how does this affect the others involved” filter. I can’t say all decisions have been made that way, but I know I will be held responsible for my decisions.

What is your favorite aspect of the marketplace? Why?

The people you meet along the way. In our business, we meet all kinds of people who are in different situations. Our business depends on how we treat those we meet.

For the same reason, we as Christians must differentiate ourselves from nonbelievers by showing God’s love to others as we work and meet people in the marketplace.

One of my favorite sayings is, “Is there enough evidence to prove you guilty of being a Christian?” If not, why not?

What one aspect of the marketplace gives you the greatest joy?

To watch people grow in many different ways: workwise, financially, spiritually, etc.

We are blessed to offer three Bible studies at the company: each Tuesday—mainly company; Thursday—company and outsiders; and Tuesday at lunch—women only. People get to know that God in our marketplace is a good thing. It gives me joy that we are able to offer these Bible studies at our offices.

Most of our businesses have 24/7 schedules, so there are times when we cannot make it to a church at a regular hour. To be able to provide an avenue for study, learning and fellowship is important. My preference would be that we were able to show ourselves as worthy representatives for Christ in our marketplace.

What one aspect of the marketplace would you like to change?

I would like to see more openness in the oilfield services business. As the oilfield, in general, shrinks due to mergers and buyouts, the reward for differentiating the company for doing good work goes away. The “local” people are replaced by administrators whose job depends on “differentiation” of another kind—price only. The ability to interact and show God’s love is somehow lost. If there was a way to slow that trend, that would be my change.

Relationships are as important in business as they are in sharing the love of Jesus to others.

How do you expect the marketplace to change in the next 10 to 20 years?

I think relationships will always be important, but it is my belief that their importance will take a backseat to price and bidding. As the oilfield service business moves into the “process engineering” mode, the ability to share our love for Christ may become more difficult. By the same token, I believe more and more companies are allowing Bible studies and devotionals, thereby advancing the Christian discussion in the workplace.

What do you wish more people knew about the marketplace?

The marketplace is on its way to being an auxiliary “church.” It seems many companies are allowing Bible studies to take place at work, and it is my belief the marketplace is less threatening than having to go to a church.

Our studies have allowed people to grow in their faith, and we’ve seen many of our employees go on to start their own studies. It has become an easy way to talk about Jesus in a nonthreatening environment and has allowed some great discussions. Some have overcome their fear of speaking and praying in front of others.

About Baptists

What would you change about the Baptist denomination—state, nation or local?

If I were “king,” I would have Baptists heal their differences. Baptists talk every Sunday about the significance of forgiving others. What has happened to our leaders? I understand we don’t have a pope or king who must approve or disapprove of each decision or who must rule on each difference.

We as Baptists—and Christians—only have one mission in life, and that is stated in Matthew 28:19-20: “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, even until the very end of the age.” That is our job, plain and simple.

I would have our leaders find a way to reunite and work together for Christ and him alone.

About Mike

Who were/are your mentors, and how did/do they influence you?

My dad, who taught me to do what is right and how to persevere. It came in handy when I was trying to get a loan to purchase the business. I went to 13 banks before a bank would give me a chance.

Bobby Shows, my youth pastor, who showed me as long as you have joy, you can be happy in any situation you have to face, and if you are following God’s plan for your life, you will always find joy along the way.

What is the impact of the marketplace on your family?

I’m blessed to have had one of my daughters working with me for several years. During that time, we all grew due to the Bible studies. At one point, she was leading the ladies’ study, even providing the notes for them.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

Ephesians 2:8-9: “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”

These verses remind me my salvation is not about me or anything I did or will do. It is all about him, and for that, I am grateful.

It is strange how many people we encounter who still believe salvation is all about works.

Who is your favorite Bible character, other than Jesus? Why?

Peter. I’ve never tried to cut anyone’s ear off, nor have I heard the cock crow, but I have made some very quick decisions that I’ve regretted almost immediately and had to seek forgiveness. The good news is we have a loving God who forgives our mistakes. Unfortunately, the consequences remain and have to be dealt with in a manner pleasing to him.

Gordon Wilkerson, member of First Baptist Church in Lubbock, is president of Wilkerson Properties, Inc. and Wilkerson Storage Co. Both have been family-owned since 1938, the former providing commercial and industrial real estate development and the latter providing third-party logistics services.

The family business was started by Wilkerson’s grandfather, whose first business in Lubbock was a seafood shop selling fresh fish transported in ice and by rail from the Texas coast. From there, the business expanded into cold storage and rental properties. After his grandfather died in a plane crash in 1956, Wilkerson’s father assumed leadership of the business.

From deep in the heart of one Texan, Wilkerson shares his background and thoughts on being a follower of Christ in the marketplace. To suggest a Texas Baptist leader in the marketplace to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

Background

Where did you grow up?

Lubbock, Texas

How did you come to faith in Christ?

Through examples provided by my parents and grandparents which were bolstered and confirmed by effective and instructive preaching and teaching from a number of outstanding staff members and lay leaders at First Baptist Church in Lubbock and later through faculty and leaders at Baylor University.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

• Baylor University, Bachelor of Business Administration
• Southern Methodist University, Master of Business Administration

About business life

Why do you feel called into business?

I want to be a good steward of the resources and opportunities God has presented. I enjoy helping others find positive solutions to their space and logistics requirements.

How does being a Christian influence your business decisions?

We are here to serve others. Christian truths as guideposts, humility and hard work serve one well in any endeavor.

What is your favorite aspect of business? Why?

Relationships with customers, vendors and associates, and team building to achieve success.

What one aspect of business gives you the greatest joy?

Our priority is working with our customers to create effective and efficient solutions to their logistics requirements. We must determine proper location, find correct building size, assess best construction techniques and incorporate effective design features. It’s great to see the process move from ideas to plans to a finished product serving the customer.

How do you expect business to change in the next 10 to 20 years?

We are just beginning to witness changes driven by disruptive technology. Moore’s Law cannot be sustained indefinitely, but the rate of change in the last generation has been astounding. Web-based business, artificial intelligence, self-driving vehicles, robots and other innovations will drive an even faster rate of change for the next 20 years.

What do you wish more people knew about business?

A favorite Winston Churchill quote says it better than I can: “Some regard private enterprise as if it were a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look upon it as a cow that they can milk. Only a handful see it for what it really is—the strong horse that pulls the whole cart.”

About Baptists

What are the key issues facing Baptists—denominationally and/or congregationally?

It’s not easy for lifelong Baptists to admit it, but society is approaching a post-denominational state. We are in a continuing struggle for relevance and, ultimately, for our existence.

What would you change about the Baptist denomination—state, nation or local?

We spend too much time on politics and petty infighting. I often pine for the spirit Baptists exhibited and the positive influence the denomination held in the 1950s, ’60s and ’70s. I realize we can’t go back but would hope we could chart a course for the future with an objective of achieving a similar unity.

About Gordon

Who were/are your mentors, and how did/do they influence you?

My parents, John and Ruth Wilkerson, allowed Christianity to sink into my soul gently and thoroughly like a long, slow rain in West Texas.

Both my maternal and paternal grandparents also were true and laudable examples.

Pastors David Ray, Dan Yeary, D.L. Lowrie, Jon Randles and Bobby Dagnel have provided wisdom, strength, comfort, instruction and compassion while making God’s word understandable, practical and applicable.

Professors Bruce Cresson and H.J. Flanders at Baylor were exceptional Bible teachers.

I wish our children could have the chance to attend even one January Bible Study led by William Tolar or Jack MacGorman.

Ron Lowry led me to an enduring love for hymns and sacred music.

Abner McCall and Herbert Reynolds were true servant leaders.

Baylor Professors L.M. Dyson, Kent Gilbreath, Maxine Hart, Lee Polk, Robert Reid, Richard Scott and James Vardaman not only taught exceptionally, but also challenged my thinking and confirmed life’s priorities.

My brother Ray, who died battling glioblastoma multiforme, showed me a combination of fearless faith, grace under pressure and wisdom—of which I hope to have half a measure at some point in my life.

My wife, Lori, and our three daughters are a continual source of wisdom, counsel and inspiration.

What is the impact of business on your family?

Pros: A high degree of personal freedom, which helps in keeping family a priority. Pride of ownership in finding effective solutions for customers, helping team members grow and achieving financial success.

Cons: When business or markets fail or go sideways, loss is distinctly personal. Particularly in family-owned businesses, it would be disingenuous to say anything other than business operations and involvement can put stress on family relationships, which are ultimately more important.

Other than the Bible, name some of your favorite books or authors, and explain why.

• Audio versions of any history course by the late Professor J. Rufus Fears of the University of Oklahoma. His course on the history of freedom is exceptional, a true reminder that we cannot take for granted the freedom we enjoy as Americans.
• Biographies by David McCullough; I particularly enjoyed The Wright Brothers.
• To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee, as covered in high school English by Sharon Kingston, who inspired a love for literature and confirmed “speed reading” is not fair to reader or author.
• I also enjoy Peggy Noonan’s Wall Street Journal columns, enjoyed the late Blackie Sherrod sports columns and enjoy John Grisham novels.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

Isaiah 41:10. The calm assurance this verse provides is a reminder of both God’s love for us and his power in our lives.

Who is your favorite Bible character, other than Jesus? Why?

Daniel. He’s such a powerful reminder of the importance of keeping one’s faith in a shifting culture and uncertain future.

Name something about you that would surprise people who know you.

I attempted to take up the cello in my mid-50s and gained a new and deeper appreciation for middle school orchestra concerts.

If you could get one “do over” in business, what would it be, and why?

I love Lubbock, but I wish I’d taken the opportunity to broaden my horizons earlier in my career.

Any final thoughts?

I’ve always really liked a quote widely attributed to Winston Churchill: “We make a living by what we get; we make a life by what we give.”

I was surprised to learn in later research that Churchill never spoke those words. I find what he did say on the topic to be even more inspiring:

“What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and to make this muddled world a better place for those who will live in it after we are gone? How else can we put ourselves in harmonious relation with the great verities and consolations of the infinite and the eternal? And I avow my faith that we are marching towards better days. Humanity will not be cast down. We are going on swinging bravely forward along the grand high road and already behind the distant mountains is the promise of the sun.”

Tim Musquiz is a senior category manager for Plains All American Pipeline, having worked in the supply chain business for over 10 years, and is a member of Iglesia Bautista Maranatha in Houston. He is responsible for making strategic line decisions for business operations.

From deep in the heart of one Texan, Musquiz shares his background and thoughts on being a follower of Christ in the marketplace. To suggest a Texas Baptist leader in the marketplace to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

Background

What other businesses have you been in, and what were your positions there?

I’ve spent time in multiple supply chain organizations ranging from Waste Management, Sysco Foods, Halliburton and now Plains All American Pipeline. The majority of my experience is held in the oil and gas field with upstream and midstream experience.

Where did you grow up?

I grew up in the great city of Houston. I currently live in a small suburb of Houston called Pearland with my beautiful wife Darlene.

How did you come to faith in Christ?

Growing up in the church and being the son of a Baptist preacher, my faith in the Lord started at a young age. I can say my love for the Lord started a little later in my early teens. When I was a kid, I knew of the Lord Jesus Christ, but it wasn’t until I was a young teen that I truly knew the Lord and loved him.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

I received my bachelor’s degree from Houston Baptist University in 2011, where I double majored in business administration and management. I also received a master’s degree in business administration in 2015 from Houston Baptist University.

Life in the marketplace

Why do you feel called into the marketplace?

Someone told me one time that life was full of decisions. Every decision we make leads to harder or easier decisions down the road. Dealing in numbers with business and logistics and procurement in supply chain fascinated me to the point that I made an easy decision to pursue those as my career.

How does being a Christian influence your decisions in the marketplace?

My father taught me from a young age that I should treat all people with respect. It didn’t matter what their job title was or what ethnicity they were. Those same principles instilled in me came from his relationship with Christ. I carry those same principles with me into my meetings internally and when I deal with outside stakeholders.

Christ loved all people. He shared in their sufferings, and he rejoiced in their happiness. When and how you deal with people shows a lot about an individual. I like to think I’m not a business person who happens to be a Christian. I’m a Christian who happens to be a business person.

What is your favorite aspect of the marketplace? Why?

I love interacting with individuals from different backgrounds. One beautiful trait I got from my mother is the gift of communication. We are talkers and enjoy getting to know people.

I can say honestly that my mother has never met a stranger because by the time she’s done talking with them, she knows their whole life story. I have that same approach in my line of business. I love including that personal touch in my conversations, and I believe it helps not only with thinking of vendors as vendors but thinking of them as partners in business.

What one aspect of the marketplace gives you the greatest joy?

One of the greatest joys I receive is teaching people different and new things. From process improvements to technical applications, such as business data tools like Tableau and PowerBI, if I can help people make their job easier, I find joy in that.

How do you expect the corporate world to change in the next 10 to 20 years?

Coming from oil and gas and being involved in trucking and fleet, I’m always asked what I think about electric vehicles and if I’m scared about alternative energy substituting fossil fuels. Tesla always comes to mind.

While I think the technology is fascinating, it’s not realistic for emerging markets such as India and China, two countries that hold over a billion people and two countries that are now importing billions and billions of barrels of oil. When it comes down to it, oil will bring people past the survival threshold where they were not before.

Name the three most significant challenges and/or influences facing your place in the market.

Some of the most challenging situations are things I can’t control. The bombings of the crude oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz leads to oil prices increasing, which then leads me to have strategic conversations with our partners about costs. Sometimes, foreign governments play a huge factor in this line of business.

About Baptists

What would you change about the Baptist denomination—state, nation or local?

I think on the state level, we need to be more involved. We need to be engagers and not just viewers. Communication needs to be key moving forward. We live in an era where information is king, and we need to be able to supply that information to churches so they can become more engaged.

About Tim

Who were/are your mentors, and how did/do they influence you?

I have four mentors in my life who have helped mold me and encourage me through my entire life.

• Daniel “Tiny” Dominguez, lead pastor at Community Heights in Lubbock, Texas

Since I was a young teenager, Tiny has been a presence in my life. He’s been such a blessing in my life that I wanted him to do the ceremony for my wedding. I’ve had many conversations with him ranging from sports to personal life events. He has never steered me wrong, and he’s also never been easy on me. Like he would say, the truth hurts sometimes, but it’s the truth.

I look up to Tiny because of the way he leads his church and also the loving way he tends to his family. His heart and compassion for others is a true reflection of Christ, and it’s one of the reasons I look up to him.

• Jesse Rincones, executive director of Convención

Our family truly has been blessed by Jesse. He is a man who puts others above himself and leads in such a way that you see Christ in him.

For those who don’t know, Jesse holds a law degree from Texas Tech, but it’s his calling that proves him great. His choice was kingdom business over legal business, and I see no greater show of humility than that.

I’m not sure if he knows it, but Jesse actually was preaching at a youth camp I attended when I was a teen, and in one of his sermons God placed on his heart, I surrendered to the ministry. The Lord used him to give me the mindset that wherever I go and whatever I do in life, I will always be involved in some form or capacity in the ministry.

• John Matthew Musquiz, global operations manager with Chevron

My older brother has had a huge influence on my life. He’s an amazing father and husband and also a great leader. The way he conducts his home and work are staples as I start to lead. In regards to family, he is some of the main glue that keeps a lot of our extended family together.

From hunting trips to random dinners, I enjoy the time I spend with him. His passion for life and his attitude are a reflection of his love of God and a clear picture of God’s graciousness and blessings.

• Johnnie M. Musquiz, recently retired Baptist minister after more than 40 years in ministry

My father has been my stronghold. He has been the person I could count on to be in my corner. From his prayers to his wisdom, there are not enough words to describe this godly man. His love for both my brother and me is evident.

I can remember an instance when I was struggling with the idea of pursuing an MBA because of my financial situation. I talked and confided in a lot of people, and most of them directed me to hold off on it, but there was one man—my father—who stood in my corner and said, “If that’s your dream, go out and get it, and the Lord will provide.”

I always will remember those words and my father being the only person who believed in me and believed in the power of God. I might be a little biased, but I haven’t met a greater man than my father.

What is the impact of the marketplace on your family?

The Lord truly has blessed me with terrific positions. The higher up the ladder I climb, I understand the more taxing it will be, but currently, my company provides a great work-life balance and preaches having a great work-life balance.

Other than the Bible, name some of your favorite books or authors, and explain why.

I’m a huge fan of C.S. Lewis. His writings are thoughtful and impactful. His view on the world in the early 20th century is fascinating to me. Screwtape Letters is a great read that shows the complexity of Christian theology in dealing with issues such as temptation and resistance. Another Lewis book I enjoyed is A Grief Observed, which shows his true love for his wife and his thoughts after her passing.

One of the most enjoyable leadership books I would recommend is Extreme Ownership by Lief Babin and Jocko Willink, two Navy Seals who take field experience and transform it into business and organizational principles.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

My favorite Bible verse is James 4:10: “Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.”

I understand nothing is my doing. How far I get in life and how well I’m doing is solely based on the Lord.

I understand everything comes from him or is permitted by him. In that, there is a fear in which I realize how small I am and how thankful I am.

I try always to remember Job saying: “The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord” (Job1:21). When I can remain humble, I know the Lord will continue to exalt me.

Who is your favorite Bible character, other than Jesus? Why?

I would have to say Paul. His story probably is the most relatable to us all. You might say, “Well, Paul had people killed, and I’ve never killed anybody,” and I would point you to Jesus’ sermon on the mount in Matthew 5:21-22.

I’ve heard people say they couldn’t come to know Jesus because of their past. Again, I would point them to scripture in Paul’s wise words to Timothy (1 Timothy 1:15-16). We are never too far gone from the reach of Christ. There is a little of Paul in all of us.

Name something about you that would surprise people who know you.

I think playing saxophone and moving to bass and guitar would shock people. I’ve never been the best musician on the stage, but I love playing.

Jay Abernathy has been the associate pastor for pastoral care and generations ministry at First Baptist Church of Lubbock, Texas, since September 2016. From deep in the heart of one Texan, he shares his background and thoughts on church and ministry. To suggest a Baptist General Convention of Texas-affiliated minister to be featured in this column, or to apply to be featured yourself, click here.

Background

Where else have you served in ministry, and what were your positions there?

• Pastor, First Baptist Church of Palestine
• Pastor, First Baptist Church of Stamford
• Pastor, First Baptist Church of Era
• Youth Minister, The Woodlands First Baptist Church, The Woodlands
• Youth Minister, First Baptist Church, Jena, La.
• Youth Minister, Wilshire Baptist Church, Dallas

Where did you grow up?

I was thankful to be reared in one place—from birth to high school graduation in Richardson, Texas.

How did you come to faith in Christ?

I’m still moving toward Christ in faith, and my journey began as a child. I remember praying with my parents as young as 5 years old. When I was 7 years old, I was injured seriously when hit by a speeding car. That made me very aware of my mortality.

Months later, I recovered from my injuries and attended services at my home church—First Baptist Church of Richardson. Then, as I understood more about the good news of Jesus and the reality of salvation, I made a public confession of my faith in Jesus Christ as Savior.

My understanding was as deep and certain as can be for any 8-year-old. Thankfully, I continue to understand and treasure God’s salvation more as the years pass.

Where were you educated, and what degrees did you receive?

• Baylor University, Bachelor of Business Administration
• Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Master of Divinity in Biblical Languages

About ministry life

Why do you feel called into ministry?

I had incredible congregational ministry examples during my childhood and teenage years. As a teen, I was able to serve at my church in many ways. However, like many people, I struggled because I didn’t feel adequate. I knew I wasn’t perfect, and I wrestled with this calling until my senior year in college.

While attending a campus revival meeting, I confessed to God, “I am not good enough.”

The Holy Spirit replied back to my heart: “You are right. You’re not, but I AM.”

The truth that it isn’t about me, but is about the power of the good news of Jesus, has sustained me ever since that day.

After that moment, I declared publicly that I would serve Jesus with all I had for the rest of my life. I sought the guidance of my childhood pastor and mentor, James Landes. Through him, God led me to realize a significant and solid calling to pastoral ministry.

What is your favorite aspect of ministry? Why?

I believe everyone has a vital task in the body of Christ. Just as Ephesians 4:11-13 states, my favorite part of this work is “equipping saints for ministry.” It is incredibly energizing to help people realize and engage in their personal Christian mission through the services of teaching, preaching and leading in a local church.

How has your ministry or your perspective on ministry changed?

Although I believe the gospel call is urgent, I have seen from Scripture and daily life that God works in lifelong time frames—and sometimes longer.

I have learned to be consistent and patient in partnering with people as they become followers of Christ and faithful disciples. The change that Christ is bringing about isn’t dependent upon my life span but on Christ’s long-term purpose for his church.

How do you expect ministry to change in the next 10 to 20 years?

Within the context of the United States, I believe ministry leadership becomes more exciting and challenging for ministry leaders and our local congregations as we move from a cultural Christianity to transformational Christianity. This will give us more in common with the church globally and historically.

If you could launch any new ministry—individually, through your congregation or through another organization—what would it be? Why?

Thankfully I’ve been able to be a part of two areas of ministry already. One, the Refuge of Light, a home and ministry for victims of sex-trafficking in Texas. The other is a connection with evangelical Christians in the Holy Land, specifically in the West Bank. Both of these ministries are opportunities to connect and encourage those who often are not considered. The risk is high, but the return is incredible.

What do you wish more laypeople knew about ministry or, specifically, your ministry?

When I meet people and the conversation gets around to what I do, it is noticeable how the behavior changes. That’s expected. Sadly though, even church members behave as if ministers are another species. We are treated differently and can be tempted to believe we are different, which is not a good result.

I believe ministers would be better if we were more engaged as friends by church members, having honest conversations that aren’t intended to pursue personal agendas.

About Baptists

What are the key issues facing Baptists—denominationally and/or congregationally?

Local church autonomy and soul competency of believers are pillars of our Baptist doctrine. However, they are poorly understood and applied by most of our membership. We must find a way to encourage and equip local churches for the responsibility of being part of a co-laboring fellowship without establishing an authoritative body that restricts the ability of each local congregation to pursue its unique mission.

On an individual scale, soul competency similarly offers much gain to the congregation, but also risks much. As we find balance in these doctrines, we may be able to protect better those in our churches who are at risk from foolish, evil leadership that preys upon the flock.

What would you change about the Baptist denomination—state, nation or local?

I’d love it if people understood more that we are not a denomination as typically defined, with an authoritative hierarchy. It would be great if we communicated proactively our distinctives and purposes instead of waiting until we had to defend our values.

Instead of debating the myriad of differences, it is time to acknowledge our central connecting kerygma and cooperative missional agenda.

About Jay

Who were/are your mentors, and how did/do they influence you?

I consider myself incredibly fortunate to have mentors who didn’t prescribe God’s calling but helped me know how absolutely to be certain of it.

My childhood pastor, James Landes, always had time for me as a child. Then as a college student, he listened and advised me on pastoral leadership.

My youth pastor, Gene Wilkes, patiently connected with so many of us, not just for teen years, but continues to lead me for a lifetime. Gene shows me the value of personal investment in fellow Christ-followers for the long haul as their servant and leader.

I also am blessed to have a number of peers in ministry who mentor me as we share contemporary matters of church service and family leadership.

What did you learn on the job you wish you learned in seminary?

I call it “the ministry of moving chairs and mowing lawns.” Seriously, I have learned that the little bits of preparation and service matter, and they add up to readiness for the larger moments.

What is the impact of ministry on your family?

One time, my child came home from school and said: “I wish you weren’t a pastor. The other kids say I can’t hear their jokes because my daddy’s a preacher!”

So, yes, the expected struggles hit our family. And though we couldn’t count on everyone to help, we found the support and fellowship we received in our places of service was greater than most anyone else who doesn’t have a deep connection in a church.

Additionally, we have realized that other than the usual demands of time and relationships, ministry has engaged my family in opportunities of mission action and personal growth that aren’t availed of by most families.

Other than the Bible, name some of your favorite books or authors, and explain why.

Besides reading a reasonable spectrum of current theologians, I’ve found the works of G.K. Chesterton, C.S. Lewis and Dietrich Bonhoeffer to have staying power and depth.

Authors of the soul—like Brennan Manning, Brother Lawrence and Henri Nouwen—humble and nurture me devotionally. I return often to their writings. These authors serve as a colander through which a lot of the modern textual fluff I read is strained and valued.

What is your favorite Bible verse or passage? Why?

Cover page to the maps.

Who is your favorite Bible character, other than Jesus? Why?

Caleb. As his name’s meaning implies, he “doggedly” pursued what God promised over the long haul of his life.

I believe we fear the future too often and sell out the purpose and passion of the church. The “high country” is worth gaining, no matter the long obedience required.

Name something about you that would surprise people who know you.

If I hadn’t been what I am, I would have loved being a Hollywood stunt man. Imagine if every day at work you got to take huge risks with life or death on the line. Oh, wait, that’s like ministry isn’t it?

If you could get one “do over” in ministry, what would it be, and why?

I’d want back every word I said too quickly. Though well-intentioned, or even accurate, some responses are not as helpful as I thought at the time.

Questions aren’t always a request for information as much as for connection. So, I would listen more. A lot more.

What is the best stage of your ministry life?

Today, I believe. And, tomorrow looks incredibly exciting, too.