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Posted: 8/22/03
Texas Baptist Forum:
Anger instead of love
You write about showing love toward the homosexual (Aug. 11), but I don't know any.
I'm angry, though, when it is flaunted in my face by the media. It is not right, and I don't like it being presented as completely all right.
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If a person is struggling with a sin for deliverance, I can empathize and sympathize, for I, too, have wrestled. If, however, they are going to threaten me and tell me I have to accept what they are doing, then I do not have love but anger.
How dare they do that to me!
Kent Matthews
Lafayette, Ind.
Lousy examples
Having just read your editorial on homosexuality (Aug. 11), I hasten to write to express my appreciation for the clarity with which you discuss the issue. This is one of the very best statements I have seen on the topic. And living in the Twin Cities area, where the Episcopal Church just held its controversial general meeting at which it approved the appointment of a homosexual bishop, believe me, I've seen recently a lot of really bad editorial statements on the subject.
I particularly appreciated the way you addressed the common, yet inadequate, ways most Christians approach the issue. Your observation, “We say more than we realize when we speak of 'hating' before 'loving'” is insightful.
If I have anything to add to your observations, it would be that we as Christians have done a lousy job of living out a biblical view of marriage. Some of us have been so busy making noise about the so-called “homosexual agenda” that we have neglected to live out, and not just talk about, a truly biblical understanding of marriage. No wonder so many non-Christians reject or are unimpressed by what Christians say about marriage. Far too often, our behavior is no different than the surrounding culture. Look at the divorce statistics for Christians and non-Christians.
Mike Holmes
St. Paul, Minn.
Ticking time bomb
I agree we need to speak the truth in love, but I believe you left some important considerations out of your editorial about homosexuality (Aug.11).
A person doesn't have “homosexual tendencies” as opposed to heterosexual ones. If you've ever observed a homosexual rights rally up close (I have), you will discover that a homosexual's sexual preference is always a part of his identity.
This is why dealing with these people in love is difficult. Their first point is that their sexual preference–homosexuality–must be accepted as part of the person's identity. This is not negotiable.
God “gave them up to uncleanness especially the lusts of their own hearts” (Romans 1:24). The Greek word translated “lust” is the same word used in Matthew 5:28, in which Jesus warns us that if we look on a woman with lust we have already committed adultery in our hearts. Notice, this fellow in Jesus' example didn't act yet. But in God's eyes, he's already guilty.
This is where sin originates–in the heart.
God loves the homosexual. But we cannot tell the homosexual that he can be a pastor, deacon or some other church leader so long as he follows the “don't ask, don't tell” policy. Let's face it. The Bible wasn't written to be politically correct.
A homosexual as a church leader is a ticking time bomb. And our job is not to isolate or destroy–it is to disarm in love and allow the redemptive power of God to do its work.
Mike Sheeran
Houston
Spectacular love
My pastor has a 30-year-old daughter who was retarded from birth. The parents did not reject their daughter, who is nearly blind today. They accepted the situation and loved her, even when questioning God's will.
My daughter was rejected by her mother and me for many years because she was a lesbian. We had very little communication with each other and no family relations.
The Bible is clear regarding homosexuality, yet it is also clear regarding the love of money, an unforgiving spirit and multitudes of sinful attitudes.
After an intensive spiritual study over many weeks, God led me to stop negative criticism of others in sin, including my own daughter, who has become a best friend. The Lord showed me that Jesus did not agree with the adulterous woman, or Peter's denial at the crucifixion and other sinners within the four Gospels.
Yet Jesus accepted them as being a part of the real world. He demonstrated his spectacular love for those who had unlovable actions. These are very definitely those for whom he died.
A few church members will not accept gays, inmates, motorcyclists, homeless people. They appear to have no Christ-like love for others.
Without “acceptance” and “unconditional love,” it is no surprise they/we are unable to introduce lost persons to Jesus.
Gilbert Thornton
Longview
Repeat partners
We were surprised mission volunteers were advised to avoid returning over and over to the same location in Mexico (Aug. 11).
After years of a scattered approach, our church is partnering with one border church, and we hope to continue that partnership until the Lord comes. We decided to do so after bringing in seminary graduates from Mexico as ministry consultants. They understood both cultures, and they felt we Americans needed a more relational, servant-minded approach.
Now, nearly one-fourth of our people have been to visit our sister church. They pray for and give to people they know and love. And next summer, our sister church from Mexico plans to send a team up to help us do Vacation Bible School and outreach to the Latino community in Dallas.
We also were advised to stop calling our trips “mission trips.” Rather, these are ministry trips, where both churches join together for the furtherance of the gospel.
Another surprise: Our spring break is the worst time for them to host us. And nine days is too long.
The ideal time for them? Three or four days before Christmas, when extra food is on the table, and their relatives are visiting and interested in whatever events the church is hosting.
There are also lines at the border full of bored people ready to read whatever literature we hand out. Yes, this is the worst time for many of us, but we are called to serve, not to be served.
Gary and Sandra Glahn
Rowlett
Penchant for sinning
Murder, stealing, greed and adultery run rampant in our American culture. Does anyone really believe that posting the Ten Commandments everywhere will help curtail our penchant for sinning?
Will God bless America more if the Ten Commandments are posted in every school and significant public place? Will their posting lessen the source of most wrongdoing–the love of money, or greed?
If they had been on display at Enron's corporate headquarters, could a scandal have been averted?
Public display of the Ten Commandments to show America's religiosity does not honor God. To be effective, the Commandments must be engraved on a person's heart, soul and conscience. Emanating out of such a soul will come an outward manifestation of what really pleases God–a pure and genuine religion that puts God first, others second and self last.
Many people are misguided by politicians' attempts to make religion a political issue, but God is not fooled.
Paul L. Whiteley Sr.
Louisville, Ky.
Moses & Land
Will someone please tell Richard Land not to make us Baptists look so stupid by his support of the government on the Ten Commandments issue!
After all, if Moses would have obeyed the “law of the land” of Egypt, we would not even have the Ten Commandments!
Kerry J. Hodgkinson
Orange
Lawless actions
A retired Alabama judge told me former Gov. George Wallace set the state back 100 years. More recently, Rep. Artur Davis, D-Ala., said Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore has set the state back 40 years.
Interesting: One hundred forty years ago, the battles of Gettysburg and Vicksburg were fought and the outcome of the Civil War was determined.
Moore's case isn't an Alabama issue. Recently, the U.S. House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly to support Moore as he defies the U.S. Constitution and the teachings of the Bible by prohibiting U.S. marshals from removing Moore's rock from public property.
All over the country, people are being urged to show their disrespect for the law by coming to Alabama and interfering with the enforcement of the law.
I heard Don Wildmon of the American Family Association say if Moore is forced to comply with the law, it will “be the end of civilization as we know it,”
It's difficult to believe so many people who call themselves “Christians” are willing to commit these lawless acts in support of an arrogant politician who has no respect for the Constitution or the Bible.
Carl L. Hess
Ozark, Ala.
No equality
Melissa Crawford really stumbled onto something (Aug. 11): Where the Apostle Paul doesn't specifically say, “Thus saith the Lord,” we can just ignore it!
How sad that some are so blinded by worldly ideals that they would undercut the authority of the apostles.
The Bible says the apostles, prophets and Jesus Christ are the very foundation upon which the church is built (Ephesians 2:20). In Revelation, the wall of the city has 12 foundations upon which are written the names of the 12 apostles (Revelation 21:14).
Thirty years ago, black Christians and white Christians couldn't worship together because the church of that day accepted the world's racist value system.
Today, we are doing the same thing with equality.
Since adopting this belief in the 1960s, we have seen the divorce rate skyrocket, and this is the root cause of almost every social problem we have in America.
Evidently, no Baptist preachers or theologians have the courage to say it, so I'll say it for them: Christ does not teach equality! The husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church. The two are not equal.
It is only the sinful, Christ-rejecting world who demands that everyone be equal.
Jimmy Stanfield
Texas City
Silent canary
While the Bible warns of the danger of pride, the ancient Greeks told us of the tragedy of hubris, exaggerated pride with presumption.
Baylor University leaders would do well to learn from both Scripture and classical literature.
Imagine the presumptuous folly of simultaneously reaching toward the ambitious goals of becoming a Tier One research university, and maintaining excellence in undergraduate education, and staying true to a historic Christian mission, and becoming a competitive force in the major sports of the Big 12 Conference.
The exaggerated pride in this equation of hubris is that Baylor officials believe they could actually accomplish this merely because they are Baylor. The inherent presumption is that these mutually opposing goals could actually be reconciled into some kind of gravity-defying synergy that would take the university where no other university has gone before, except, perhaps, Notre Dame.
This unfortunate and heartbreaking basketball scandal is the canary in the mineshaft. The bird is no longer singing, but Baylor University administrators and regents are still whistling in the dark.
James Mims
Dallas
Personal view
Recently, a brochure concerning Proposition 12, which will appear on the Sept. 13 ballot in Texas, was mailed to the electorate in which my quote, identifying me by my title as the dean of Baylor Law School, appeared, along with other quotes from former Texas Supreme Court Justices Deborah Hankinson and James Baker, as well as Darrell Jordan, a former president of the State Bar of Texas.
The quote represents my personal opinion on a public policy issue and neither was intended, nor should be construed, as an opinion on, or endorsement of, any position on the issues involved in Proposition 12 by Baylor University.
Brad Toben
Waco
Crucifixion date
“Astronomers pinpoint crucifixion time” (Aug. 11) told how two astronomers concluded that Jesus died on Friday, April 3, 33 A.D. Their reasoning is that this was a year in which a solar eclipse was observed in Jerusalem, and the eclipse caused the darkness recorded in Mark 15:33.
This cannot be correct.
Jesus was crucified during the Passover, which always occurs on a full moon. Solar eclipses occur only with a new moon–the moon must be between the sun and Earth. During Passover, the moon is on the side of the Earth away from the sun.
April 3, 33 A.D., may be the correct date for the crucifixion, but the darkness requires some explanation other than an eclipse.
Craig Davis
Houston
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