Posted: 2/17/06
Texas Baptist Forum
Missing a good friend
I have lost a good friend. Phil Strickland died.
Those words haven’t completely sunk in yet. He fought cancer for so long, and so courageously, I thought he might finally win the fight. Every day he whipped cancer was one more day God blessed us. Every day he fought was one more day the children of Texas had their most effective voice. Every day Phil got up and went to work, when most of us would stay home, was one more day Texas legislators knew there was a voice of reason in the chaos of the culture wars that have engulfed our state. Every day Phil fought to stay with us was one more day defenders of religious liberty had a passionate ally.
Phil Strickland was a paradox. He was as comfortable on the deer lease as he was at a black-tie affair in North Dallas. Phil was serious and incredibly funny. He was a politician and strategist who was intensely spiritual. He had white skin, but his heart belonged to African-Americans and Hispanics. He was judicious in his speech but never failed to be heard on important issues.
He would disagree with you in a strategy meeting and somehow draw you into his friendship. He was a public figure who loved his family most. He traveled the world, but his favorite vacation was a trip down a Texas river, in a canoe, with his dog.
I will miss him.
Ed Hogan
Houston
Church, state & phones
“Gospel lighthouses or cell phone towers?” (Jan. 23) seems to commend churches for using their facilities for commercial purposes. However, if the cell towers are placed in areas where there were zoning restrictions on height of a structure and where the church got exemptions from this restriction for their steeple or other structures, placing a commercial enterprise in this church structure amounts to abuse of the privileged status.
In addition, if the church is not paying taxes at the usual commercial rate for this secular endeavor, it should be. If it is not paying taxes on the cell phone facilities located on their property, this could, and perhaps should, open the church to taxation on all of its property.
Leaders should think carefully about this “free money” to carry on the mission of the church in spite of LifeWay pushing these projects and Steeplecom making the arrangements.
The statement by Steeplecom President Tom Moylan that these commercial enterprises will funnel “millions—no, billions—of dollars into the kingdom of God” certainly makes jumping into these commercial enterprises tempting. But is it compatible with separation of church and state, or is it just using the status of the church in a commercial and secular way?
Sherman Hope
Brownfield
Reinventing the wheel?
In the last issue of the Standard (Feb. 6), a two-page spread promoted the nine new areas of emphasis, with each area adding a congregational strategist to work alongside a regional church-planting strategist.
The accompanying story said this was an action of the Baptist General Convention of Texas Executive Board. I served until recently on the Executive Board and would have been hard to convince that we need this. It looks like we are reinventing the wheel.
We already have area missionaries or directors of missions strategically placed around the state. Couldn’t we train them to do this work or give them assistance? The old program could use tweaking, but this looks like an overlap of strategy and emphasis.
I pastor in Dallas Baptist Association at Pleasant Terrace Baptist Church, and we have a thriving Hispanic mission. This came about through the able work of our Dallas Baptist Association under the guidance of Gary Hearon. Some BGCT funds help, but that program already existed.
Are we now competing with our historic and faithful associations and areas?
George M. Mosier
Dallas
Theory, not fact
I was saddened when I read Brent Walker’s opinion about evolution (Jan. 23). It is a shame to think that Christians are willing to accept the beliefs of scientists over the infallible word of God. First Corinthians 1:18-31 teaches us about accepting the wisdom of man over the wisdom of God.
Evolution is a theory! It changes as scientists find flaws in their earlier theories that used to be taught as fact. As well, there are a great number of scientists who believe in a literal six days of creation, just as Genesis teaches us. Not all scientists believe in evolution. It should never be taught as a fact. Evolution is a theory!
This truly is a matter of faith. Could God have created the world and life in billions of years by using evolution? Sure, but did he? What does the Bible tell us? Why did God spell out very clearly in Genesis 1 that the earth was created in six literal days? (“There was evening, there was morning … .”) He clearly indicated that each day was a literal 24-hour day. He has given us his word so that we would not be deceived by the ideas of men.
Christians, it is time we stand behind the word of God, no matter what men say. Science is not foolproof and constantly changes, but the word of God is perfect and never changes. Which will you believe and teach your children?
David E. Jones
Jayton
Story of evolution
I’d like to tell my story of evolution: In 1928, I was in the fifth grade. The teacher told us we came from monkeys. I would not admit it was so. I had to sit in the corner, the first and only time I sat in a corner.
I went home and told my mother. She got the well-worn Bible down and read, “In the beginning, God … .” That was all I needed. My parents were true Christians. I still believe “In the beginning, God … .”
I believe all the Bible. In times like these, to remember “God is love” and “God is still on his throne” is hard.
Wilma Brown
Glendale, Ariz.
Jaw-dropping shock
Only rarely do I read an article that makes my jaw drop in utter shock, but Roger Olson’s article “Why ‘inerrancy’ doesn’t matter” (Feb. 6) did the trick. This professor at Truett Seminary openly advocates the Bible having mistakes. Yet out of the other side of his mouth, he states his belief that the Bible is “infallible.” Anyone with reason would find this very strange.
To prove the Bible wrong, he quotes 1 Corinthians 10:8 and Numbers 25:1-9, and how the first says 23,000 people died, and the second says 24,000 died. Is it hard to believe Paul may have had access to historical records that said 23,000 died in one day, while the Numbers passage says 24,000 people died in all?
A man of faith does not trust his wits above the inspired word of God. If the Bible is wrong here, where else is the Bible mistaken? Is the Bible also wrong about capital punishment, human sexuality/gender roles, or any other controversial issues? I am sure Olson can correct all the errors of the Bible for us. I can only assume he believes Jesus was mistaken when he said God would preserve his word until all things are fulfilled (Matthew 5:18).
While I am deeply saddened by Olson’s thoughts, there will never be a better advertisement for Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.
Tim Overton
Louisville, Ky.
Petty bickering
My thanks to Roger Olson for his objective and informative article about a word that has, unfortunately, divided Southern Baptists into two factions.
We Baptists better do as the Bible admonishes us to do: Quit this petty bickering over selfish interests and get on with the work we are supposed to be about—spreading the gospel of Christ.
Rex A. Reddy
Corsicana
Paul’s numbers
While agreeing with Roger Olson (Feb. 6) that some on both sides of the inerrancy discussion are being way too disagreeable, I do need to respectfully point out the verses he cited do not appear to show that the Apostle Paul made a mistake as he claims.
In Numbers 25:9, the New English Translation Bible reads, “Those who died by the plague were 24,000.” In Numbers 25:4-5, an indefinite number of leaders were to be arrested and executed, and in Numbers 25:8, an execution ends the plague. These events appear to cover more than one day and would indicate that deaths occurred by execution as well as the plague. Moses totaled all deaths from the plague during its run, which is a different group of deaths than Paul cited.
The New English Translation Bible shows Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians 10:8 as, “23,000 died in a single day.”
Note that Paul appears to describe the number who died from either cause in one day, while Moses describes the total number of people who died from the plague.
There is no external evidence to prove or disprove the correctness of either man’s number; and without the number of executions or the days during which deaths from either cause occurred, one should not use Moses’ number to unequivocally declare Paul’s number to be a mistake.
Rod Norville
Houston
Religion and Evolution: mutually exclusive
There’s no greater dichotomy than the difference between religion and evolution (Jan. 23). They are mutually exclusive!
Evolution, the belief that we all came from a gas explosion 12 billion years ago, is not only not scientific, it violates every known law of science and was long ago disproved. Scientifically, evolution couldn’t start, nor is there a mechanism to propel it from protozoa to people.
Louis Bounoure, president of the Biological Society of Strasbourg, said, “Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups.”
T.N. Tahmisian of the Atomic Energy Commission, said, “In explaining evolution, we do not have one iota of fact.”
Malcolm Muggeridge, said, “Evolution … will be one of the great jokes in the history books of the future.”
Intelligent design should be taught in science class, and evolution should be relegated to a philosophical discussion in social studies. The foolish decisions made by courts and judges, turning our Constitution on its head, are legendary. It’s no surprise when they come down on the wrong side of this issue.
What is surprising is that any ordained Baptist minister would champion teaching America’s children lies in science class rather than truth.
Brian Burgess
Peacock
Coretta Scott King
Thousands of mourners waited for hours in freezing rain at Atlanta’s Ebenezer Baptist Church and the state capitol rotunda to pay their respects to the “first lady of the civil rights movement,” Coretta Scott King. President Bush and former President Clinton led the list of dignitaries at memorial services.
Coretta Scott King was much more than a devoted wife and partner of the celebrated civil rights leader. She traveled throughout the globe on behalf of peace and nonviolence, racial and economic justice, minority rights, religious freedom, the poor and homeless, educational opportunities, nuclear disarmament and ecological sanity. She helped found organizations advocating social justice, received honorary doctorates from more than 60 colleges and universities, and wrote three books and a nationally syndicated column.
Coretta Scott King was also a vegan, who eschewed all products of animal suffering, including meat, dairy, eggs, leather and cosmetics containing animal ingredients or tested on animals. Her strong belief in peace and nonviolence extended to the violence perpetrated against billions of innocent sentient animals in America’s factory farms and slaughterhouses.
Her passion for justice extended to the most downtrodden living beings on the planet—the animals bred, abused and killed for food, fur, research and entertainment.
Coretta Scott King truly practiced what she preached. And for that, I salute her.
Damian Hale
Dallas
Commandments for Gentiles
Amen to Roger Olsen for asserting “why inerrancy doesn’t matter” (Feb. 6)! It seems inerrancy is to fundamentalists as anti-communism was to Joseph McCarthey. Hint of it, and you are blackballed.
I agree with Olson. Furthermore, I put my trust in God himself to guide me into his way, whether it is in his book, my circumstances, instruction from my fellow Christians and any number of ways that God can impress upon me through his Holy Spirit.
That said, I have another question. According to Acts 15, the council in Jerusalem decided that the Gentiles should not be burdened with the laws as given by Moses. Instead, they accepted that God himself was living in people and that salvation was by faith alone in Jesus. Therefore, they decided to reduce the “commandments” to the following: “It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.”
Why post the Ten Commandments? We Gentiles only have these four given to us by God through the Jerusalem Council. Wouldn’t it be more appropriate to post these four?
We don’t really “get it.” The important thing is the continual relationship/communication with God through Jesus and the Holy Spirit—not a “to do or not to do” list without errors!
Steve Livengood
Stamford
Love not the world or Super Sunday
The Bible says: “Do not love the world or the things in the world. The one loving the world does not have the love of the Father in him. For all that is in the world—the desire of the flesh, the desire of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father, but is of the world, and the world is passing away and the desire of it; but theone doing the will of God abides forever” (1 John 2:15-17).
Jesus said, “I do not pray for the world” (John 17:9).
Jesus also said, “I am not of the world” (John 17:14).
Jesus added, “They (his followers) are not of the world.” Also, “The world has hated them because they (his followers) are not of the world” (John 17:14).
So, what do we do? We (the church) take the world into our churches and try to sanctify the world by having “Super Bowl Sunday” to entice the young people to fellowship around the world.
What kind of conflicting message are we giving to our young people? No wonder the church has lost its spiritual power.
Ernest V. May Jr.
Livingston
Making God a liar
Apparently, we do not have any journalists who are Bible scholars who would know the teaching of the evolution of man makes God a liar. It is recorded, “He that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son” (1 John 5:10). That record is the first book of Moses, called Genesis, and the last book of Revelations.
Would there be an editor of religion who would know that “all flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes and another of birds” (1 Corinthians 15:39).
For those who have never read the Bible, the creation of Adam and Eve was as adults without any parents (Genesis 1:26-27) by God.
Those who teach the evolution of man are making God a liar the same as those who approve of homosexuality, and they are guilty of it.
In a nation under God, we have ungodly teaching.
B.D. Norman
Dallas
Inflated egos
Why does the Baptist circle grow smaller? The Southern Baptist Convention’s International Mission Board has decreed missionary applicants must be baptized in Southern Baptist churches, etc. The Apostle Peter warns, “There are people who are deliberately stupid, and always demand some unusual interpretation” (2 Peter 3:16).
Stupid is not the complete answer. Inflated egos must continuously be fed by making new rules.
IMB trustees might go for this: Require all missionaries to be baptized by trustees where Jesus was baptized. Wouldn’t that be great?
Since God changed the course of the river, sand would have to substitute for water. “Covered with sand” is a better picture of being buried.
If egos had weight, some would need wheelbarrows.
Rex Ray
Bonham
Bible will defend itself
Hooray for that 19th century British Baptist, whoever he was, who refused to enter the biblical inerrancy debate of his age, the Downgrade Controversy.
He held: “Who? Me? I’d just as soon defend a lion or a tiger. Just turn the Bible loose; it’ll defend itself.”
John Slay
Dallas
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