Posted: 2/04/05
TEXAS BAPTIST FORUM:
Faith of a child
We entered the church through the old worship center doors. I had three small boys (6, 4 and 2) loosely under control. I mean loosely, because at their ages, they are likely to bolt in three different directions at any instant.
Nicholas, 6, asked if we could stop to see the prayer chapel. So, I explained that if I took them to see it, they had to realize this was a solemn place. They had to agree to use their best manners and be silent if anyone was inside praying. Naturally, they all agreed.
When we entered the chapel, it was completely empty. Candles bathed the area in a warm light, and soft music was playing. Sam, 4, bolted inside, then stopped dead in his tracks after going about six feet into the old sanctuary. He pressed both hands tightly over his eyes, and quickly blurted out: “Dear God, I love you. Amen.”
Sam then ran back to me at the rear doors. He cast his eyes downward and quietly said, “Dad, I just had to tell God I loved him 'cause he first loved me.”
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"The best response to accusations of stinginess is not to be defensive, but to be generous. And the measure of generosity is not what you offer when the spotlight is upon you, but what you do when the spotlight moves on."
Nicholas Kristof
Syndicated columnist, commenting on charges of U.S. stinginess (New York Times)
"Let's acknowledge that America's increasing decadence is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. When we tolerate trash on television, permit pornography to invade our homes on the Internet and allow babies to be killed at the point of birth, we are inflaming radical Islam."
Jim Henry
Former Southern Baptist Convention president, on why many Muslims despise the United States (BP)
"Have the courage to have your wisdom regarded as stupidity. Be fools for Christ. And have the courage to suffer the contempt of the sophisticated world."
Antonin Scalia
U.S. Supreme Court justice, speaking to a Catholic student gathering (RNS)
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It was so sweet and simple, it brought tears to my eyes.
Jesus said, “I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it” (Luke 18:17).
David Alvey
Dallas
Getting a 'rise'
You did make changes in the Standard, especially creating controversy. I said I was going to try to contain myself in writing letters, but you got a “rise” out of me.
For example: “We are here illegally” and your editorial, “We can't wait for immigration reform” (Jan. 24).
Even though I have empathy for the illegals, I was shocked that Ernesto is a deacon. Whether you want to admit it or not, he is willfully breaking the law, and the people of his church are accessories. Do we just ignore the laws we don't care to observe?
As Christians, we offer help and salvation to those in need, but we don't harbor them and assist them in breaking the law and in turn break the law ourselves. This is not Nazi Germany, and we are not harboring Jews who would be murdered if we didn't.
In conclusion, I have read John Cornyn's bill concerning immigration. It's a joke and will never work. Sen. Cornyn doesn't have a clue.
F.A. Taylor
Kempner
Three strikes; you're out
You really blew it this time–“Student develops resource to help churches grasp immigration issues” (Jan. 24). Equating Abraham and Christ with illegal immigrants is not even close.
I care for Ernesto (no last name), but I do not condone what he is doing, God is clear about obeying our government and its laws, no matter how oppressing they might be as long as they are not against God himself. Ernesto is not qualified to be a deacon in his church, because he is not a man of integrity but rather living in open sin. His prayers should be for forgiveness and to go back home until he can come to America legally. Paul was very clear, as was Jesus, that even slaves who were treated mostly poorly by their masters were told to live in peace and not to break the law. How is this any different?
And please, Patricia Heaton: “Jesus was really against all kinds of exploitation.” Why glorify her?
“Theologian offers key to understanding U2's Atomic Bomb“: Even Satan knows Scripture. Why glorify a group of men that say one thing and do another almost exclusively? The Christian community seems to continue to fall in line with wolves dressed like sheep. Shame on us as Baptists.
Ken Ansell
Waxahachie
Compassionate Christianity
I commend you for bringing Mexican immigration to the forefront most forcefully (Jan. 24).
The idea that any geographic locale is the exclusive province of any one ethnic group is an anachronism, due to transportation and communication capabilities. Recognition of this fact should be the beginning of the solution to the immigration problem between the United States and Mexico.
As long as economic disparities exist between our countries, there is going to be northward movement of the people. Such movement has produced economic benefits to both countries and should be given appropriate legislative recognition and approval.
There is a cry to “deport the illegals and seal the borders,” apparently without due consideration to the social upheaval and strained relations with Mexico that would result.
Many problems are associated with a solution satisfactory to both nations, but all pale in comparison to increasing hostilities which risk open warfare.
This is a problem for which there is no solution that ignores its spiritual aspect. We are a nation whose people have been blessed materially beyond any nation in history, and our God who supplied this bounty has commanded us to love your neighbors as ourselves.
A compassionate Christianity should demand no less than that we reach out to those less fortunate.
S.T. Bogan Jr.
Norman, Okla.
Congressional investigation
After visiting your website (www.-baptiststandard.com), it appears your organization is hell-bent on violating federal law by aiding and abetting illegal aliens!
I know three families who have had loved ones murdered by Mexican illegal aliens, all who claimed to be here “just to work”!
I'm a God-fearing individual who happens to have a very good relationship with my congressman, who also happens to be vehemently opposed to Bible-thumping organizations that thumb their noses at the law in the name of helping the less fortunate!
I have forwarded your info to my congressman, who just may want to investigate your illegal activities! I recommend you pray for some of those poor American citizens who have lost everything due to the millions of illegal alien workers taking jobs, housing and medical care! I recommend you clean up your act before an investigation ensues, or do the right thing and devote your time and effort to helping American citizens!!
David Kendrick
Buena Park, Calif.
A sad day
I am a Baylor graduate from the School of Education and Truett Seminary. I was sad when Robert Sloan stepped down from Baylor. He led Baylor into the 21st century.
It is the underhanded work of some prominent Texas Baptists who have led the charge against him. They have tried to manipulate votes in various ways in various avenues.
I am one sad Texas Baptist. I am sad there are people who believe Baylor was becoming too spiritual. I am sad there are people who don't care if Baylor drifts from its Christian and Baptist heritage. I am sad Baylor has lost a visionary leader.
I am not saying he was perfect and made no mistakes, but no human being deserves this treatment. His detractors have used the tactics of the Southern Baptist Convention, and either they don't even see it or they don't care. It is all about power, control and money. They were out to destroy Dr. Sloan. I am sure this is what Jesus meant when he called us to love our enemies.
I am sad that his family had to endure this hatred by some.
It's sad that in our Baptist family, we see enemies. For a people who are supposed to love and care for each other even when we disagree, it is a sad day. I would ask all those involved to sit down to pray and ask God to forgive their evil deeds, as I must ask God to forgive my anger toward those who have tried to destroy a good and godly man. It is a sad day.
Daniel Downey
Lorena
Presidential intercession
I am a huge presidential history buff. Recently, a church member gave me a clipping from an old issue of the Baptist Standard in which a new president wrote to the editor. It was President Lyndon Johnson, and it was not too long after President Kennedy had been assassinated.
What struck me most about the letter from President Johnshon and the editorial that followed were the similarities to today–a new president (or at least a new term), many tough decisions to make, a divided nation and an unpopular war to fight.
I greatly admired what the editor of the Baptist Standard wrote: “As a citizen, I owe the president my loyalty, and as a Christian, I am privileged to claim the promises of prayer in his behalf. The new president is human, and he will err; but he will still be my president. I will not always be happy with his decisions, but I will never accuse him of acting from an un-American motive.”
As citizens, we owe the president our loyalty and support, and as Christians, we should pray for him.
Blake O'Dell
Brady
Do what is right to become legal
In regard to “We are here illegally” (Jan. 24), as an ordained deacon in my church, I was very disturbed about the lack of biblical standards that Ernesto has not taken to heart as a Baptist.
I refer to the conditions set forth in Scripture about the qualifications of being deacon, in particular 1 Timothy 3:10. Being blameless includes not breaking immigration laws!! Ernesto’s pastor should not allow him to be a deacon. If you are here illegally, you do not deserve the rights and privileges afforded to hard-working law-abiding citizens. I am not against helping the illegals if they need help, but helping does not include breaking the law. There are many here legally. I don’t have a problem people being in Texas that way.
We should do all we can to teach the biblical truth to all, including the Ernestos and Marias of this world. In teaching these truths to illegal aliens, they will do what is right to become legal. This is what biblical truth demands of us once we become believers in Christ.
Charlie Edmonson
Bryson
Hitler's faith-based values
Perhaps it is time to review the faith-based values of Adolf Hitler:
“My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter” (1922).
“Providence withdrew its protection and our people fell. … And in this hour, we sink to our knees and beseech our almighty God that he may bless us, that he may give us the strength to carry on the struggle for the freedom, the future, the honor, and the peace of our people. So help us God. …
“We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater and in the press. …
“With a tenth of our budget for religion, we would thus have a church devoted to the state and of unshakable loyalty. … The little sects, which receive only a few hundred thousand marks, are devoted to us body and soul” (March 1936).
“I would like to thank Providence and the Almighty for choosing me of all people to be allowed to wage this battle for Germany. … I follow the path assigned to me by Providence. There is a God. … And this God again has blessed our efforts during the past 13 years” (1940).
Deja vu all over again.
Robert Flynn
San Antonio
Sloan persecuted
Robert Sloan is a man that has attempted to bring Baylor back to its religious roots. The Bible says that those who stand upon the word of God and take a strong stand for God will be persecuted.
I just find it shameful that they would be persecuted at a Baptist School.
Steve Joiner
Abilene
Religious Right needs revival of humility
Jim Bryant, in condemning the wrongs of the left, is wrongly judging many Christians who are just as strong in their own prayerful convictions (Jan. 24).
What’s more, he and those like him may be ignoring important questions. When any Christian aligns himself with any earthly institution—political party, church or denomination—that Christian aligns himself with an imperfect institution, one that can be used by those who are contrary to the cause of Christ.
Christians are followers, and we have a history of following deceivers. We must also remember that conviction, no matter how passionate, is not always correct. Two thousand years of church history confirms this, as does 300 years of Baptist history.
Perhaps it is time to exert the same outrage against child abuse, sexual abuse and abuse against women that we do with our outrage against abortion. Perhaps we should pray that God would remove our disdain for homosexuals for treating them like lepers.
All too often, Christians misjudge with self-righteous conviction people and cultures. We make faulty moral judgments and even wrongly condemn scientific discovery, admitting our errors only hundreds of years later.
The Religious Right is at risk of selling its soul for political power, choosing to ignore the teachings of Jesus that do not fit into their personal or political agendas. It is running blindly to its own destruction and perhaps judgment. For the Religious Right to be right on, perhaps it should start with a revival of humility, repentance and self-evaluation.
Charles Ledbetter
Cleburne
Epicenter's call for commitment
A spiritual teacher was asked what was the best religious education for children. He replied, “None!” When asked what he meant, he said: “If you educate children in religion, you may inoculate them against the real thing. Instead, teach them to love God and do what God asks.”
Today, religion abounds, but the real thing is lacking. Every Sunday morning, churches across this country show evidence of inoculation by nominal Christianity. We have multitudes of consumers who come for the show. But as for commitment, the pool of participants dries up faster than a watering hole in a West Texas drought.
What can we do?
This was the theme of Epicenter put on by the Baptist General Convention of Texas’ Center for Strategic Evangelism. Attendees participated in one of the most practical, real and inspiring conferences I have attended.
Kudos to Rick Davis for his insight and leadership in bringing to Texas Dallas Willard and others who not only understand the problem but have real solutions that work.
I hope this event was taped. Why? So pastors who did not attend can watch and receive material that can transform our inoculation of nominal Christianity into real-thing discipleship. I cannot wait to make reservations for next year if it’s half as good as this conference.
David Montoya
Mineral Wells
Illegals start with disrespect for law
The problem of illegal aliens is not reduced because some of them happen to be Texas Baptists (Jan. 24). The fact that a number of illegal aliens remain in this country is due to a much more serious problem. The fact that our borders are not as secure as they should be is one of the contributing factors of 9/11.
True, there are some now here illegally who just want to make a better life for themselves and who could be upstanding citizens. But when you start with an act that is itself an utter disrespect for the law of the land, this cannot be tolerated. Remember, Jesus instructed us, “Render unto Caesar.” Surely it is a nation’s right to secure her own borders.
Incidentally, one of the qualifications of a deacon is that he be a, “man of good report.” How a person who is in this country illegally could be a person of good report is beyond my comprehension.
Mike Sheeran
Houston
Let them come legally
I respectfully disagree with the stand taken by those who would snub their noses at the law of the land and aid those who are here illegally (Jan. 24). With hundreds of jobs moving to Mexico and other places, let illegal immigrants stay in their own country and work.
As my grandfather always said, “The only jobs Americans won’t do are the ones fellow Americans are not willing to pay for!”
Let them come to America as my great-grandmother did—legally. They are here illegally. Feed them, clothe them and send them back.
I am not paying all these taxes to provide welfare and social services to those who are not my fellow countrymen, regardless of what Washington or Austin thinks.
Michael L. Simons
Cleburne
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