HOPE ministry helps fill Christmas stockings for needy Round Rock children_122004

Posted: 12/10/04

HOPE ministry helps fill Christmas
stockings for needy Round Rock children

By Miranda Bradley

Texas Baptist Children’s Home

ROUND ROCK—More than 50 children waited impatiently in a line outside the Chisholm Trail Apartments community center, eager to catch a glimpse of Santa and the toys he had just for them.

The HOPE—Healthy Opportunities that Protect and Empower—program, a community outreach ministry through Texas Baptist Children’s Home, sponsored the event that provided stockings to children who otherwise would not have them.

“It’s just great for the kids,” said Lisa Gallardo, a Chisholm Trail resident and former client of the children’s home’s family care program. “My son didn’t have a stocking, so this really helps for the holidays.”

Texas Baptist Children's Home's HOPE program partnered with Austin Young Women's League to provide filled Christmas stockings for children who otherwise might have gone without ay Christmas treats.

But these were more than plain stockings. They were handmade by volunteers and embroidered with each child’s name.

“These things are just jam-packed with stuff,” said Melanie Martinez, HOPE program supervisor. “For the babies, they have rattles and teethers. For the older girls, they are filled with hairspray and perfume. Everyone just put a lot of thought into this.”

Teaming up with HOPE for the first time was Austin Young Women’s League, a Christian service organization that helped coordinate the event.

“I feel awesome,” said Cindy Hathaway, president of the league. “There’s nothing better than doing something like this for kids who need it.”

Once inside the doors of the community center, children were given a cookie and a Bible. Then they decorated their own sugar cookies while watching a puppet show about the true story of Christmas.

“We wanted to find a way to share Christ with the children that they could relate to and understand,” Hathaway said.

Before leaving, children spent some time with Santa and received their personalized stockings.

Christy Hackney, a former TBCH family care program client, let her 6-month-old open his stocking early.

“He really likes the rattle that was inside,” she said. “I like the stockings a lot.”

“Yeah, it’s great to have the extra support,” said Gallardo, who met Hackney while they were in family care together. “It makes it easier when you don’t feel like you’re all alone.”

Many organizations pitched in to help with the event, and Hathaway believes they were God’s instruments.

“God is good,” she said. “What has happened here today is people are sincerely giving from the heart, and that comes from their love of Christ.”

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At Seaman’s Center, the world comes to Santa_122004

Posted: 12/10/04

At Seaman's Center, the world comes to Santa

By John Hall

Texas Baptist Communications

FREEPORT—The Seaman’s Center might be able to teach Santa a thing or two.

Children believe St. Nick travels the globe in one night, delivering presents to good boys and girls. But the Gulf Coast Baptist Association-sponsored ministry never even has to leave the city limits to reach much of the planet.

The center provides gifts for nearly 1,500 sailors from more than 30 countries who come through the port between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Each seaman receives a canvas bag of presents that includes two Christian tracts and $20 in personal items such as socks, gum and handkerchiefs. Those presents serve as launching points for conversations about sailors’ families, jobs and spiritual lives.

Sailors “come out of the woodwork” when Christopher Dale, a missionary serving at the Seaman’s Center, steps on board a ship with the gift bags, he said.

He normally makes six or seven contacts per ship during the year, but he meets to up 25 sailors per boat during the holiday season.

“Kindness is a very good way of talking with them and sharing Christ,” Dale said.

The gifts are meant to be a sign of compassion, Dale said. Not all sailors make a faith profession the day a gift is received, but they have tangible reminders Christians are concerned about people. The presents make lasting impressions on the men.

“We hope it helps them out—shows them someone out there cares about them,” he said.

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‘Noose of conformity’ tightens in Baptist life, observers assert_120604

Posted: 12/03/04

'Noose of conformity' tightens in Baptist life, observers assert

By Greg Warner

(ABP) — Those who look for denominational trends are disturbed by several recent actions they say are tightening “the noose of conformity” in Baptist life.

In a smattering of actions across the Baptist map, several state conventions are narrowing the requirements for membership or the parameters of acceptable theology.

In Florida, Baptists enacted guidelines to enforce the “theological integrity” of member churches. In Missouri, the state's largest Baptist convention took the first steps toward excluding all churches that don't support the Southern Baptist Convention wholeheartedly.

In the North Carolina convention, traditionally considered a moderate stronghold, a move to restrict church mission funding to SBC causes alone is gaining support. And Kentucky Baptists elected as their president a professor from the flagship SBC seminary over the pastor of the flagship moderate church.

Several other state conventions are flirting with adopting the conservative revision of the “Baptist Faith and Message” as their primary or sole doctrinal statement. And in Tennessee, where Baptists have studiously avoided theological controversy, Baptists will investigate the biblical views taught in their three affiliated Baptist colleges.

Some of the changes are subtle and others are piecemeal. But to some observers, the trend is obvious — and ominous.

“The results of this year's state convention meetings certainly must be discouraging for Baptists who thought they could avoid SBC fundamentalism by investing themselves and their energies in the states,” said Marv Knox, editor of the Baptist Standard of Texas.

“From affirmations of the 'conservative resurgence,' to demands for loyalty to the SBC's creed, to professor-presidents, to rebukes of whatever the SBC condemns, the noose of conformity is tightening,” Knox told Associated Baptist Press. “The 2004 meetings illustrate an important truth: SBC fundamentalists won't rest until they control a convention in every state.”

Moderate Baptists, who were pushed out of leadership in the national Southern Baptist Convention during a two-decade fight with conservatives, have long feared the battle would shift to state conventions, independent organizations that participate voluntarily — and with differing degrees of enthusiasm — in the national convention.

Some state conventions have remained a refuge for moderates, such as Virginia and Texas, prompting conservatives to set up alternative conventions of their own in those two states. Other state conventions, such as Florida and Missouri have become increasingly hostile to moderates.

“This is the next turn of the screw,” said Bruce Prescott, executive director of Mainstream Oklahoma Baptists and a leader in the Mainstream Baptist Network, which has fought the rising influence of conservatives in the state conventions. “The fundamentalists have done everything they can do at the national level, so now they are doing it state by state.”

The tightening of standards is “a good thing,” countered Gregory Wills, who teaches church history at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky. For much of the last century, Baptist associations and conventions have shied away from enforcing standards of faith and practice, the conservative professor said. “What that has meant is you don't always know what denominational fellowship and union means.”

“The right of association includes the right to determine membership,” said Wills, who has written about church discipline. Denying conventions that right “would force them to accept churches whose belief and practice they consider to be inimical to Christ and his gospel,” he said.

Church historian Bill Leonard, dean of the moderate Divinity School at Wake Forest University, agreed, adding no one should be surprised by the tightening standards.

“I'm an old-timey Baptist about this,” Leonard said. “Baptist organizations have every right to shape their policies as they choose. … If the majority decides to change those rules and set limits on membership, then the people who stay choose to live in those boundaries.”

The surprising factor, Leonard said, is that dissenting Baptists have put up with the restrictive changes for so long without leaving the SBC.

After conservatives solidified control of the Southern Baptist Convention and its agencies in the 1990s, they moved cautiously on the state level. But in recent years, state leaders sympathetic to the national SBC direction have gotten bolder.

The most dramatic change — although it would not take effect for a year — came in Missouri. The conservative-oriented Missouri Baptist Convention agreed to vote next year on four constitutional changes that would limit membership to churches which are identified as “Southern Baptist” and which are affiliated solely with the Missouri Baptist Convention.

If approved, the changes would exclude congregations that support the alternative state convention established by moderates, the Baptist General Convention of Missouri. Likewise, congregations that support the state and national Cooperative Baptist Fellowship would not be allowed to participate.

No congregation could be a Missouri Baptist Convention church without cooperating with the Southern Baptist Convention, a move that departs from Baptist tradition.

The convention would have the right to examine churches' contributions to determine whether those congregations support other national or state conventions or other bodies that act like national or state conventions, such as the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship.

Meanwhile, the Florida Baptist Convention tightened its bylaws to enforce the “theological integrity” of member churches and associations. The change requires each Florida Baptist church to adhere to the 2000 “Baptist Faith and Message” doctrinal statement “or any other declaration of faith which parallels the tenets of our historic Baptist faith.”

“Any church or association which undertakes questionable theology, faith, practice or polity shall be subject to having fellowship withdrawn by the Florida Baptist State Convention,” the bylaw amendment reads.

Another revision requires member churches to file a standardized statistical report each year and contribute at least $250 to the Cooperative Program. A church that violates either requirement for three consecutive years can be expelled.

And at the Tennessee Baptist Convention, messengers asked a committee to investigate what is taught at Carson-Newman College in Jefferson City, Belmont University in Nashville and Union University in Jackson. A current Carson-Newman student alleged some of that college's professors — particularly in the religion and science departments — teach that the Bible has errors and contradictions.

In North Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama and Texas, messengers considered but declined restrictive measures.

The Baptist State Convention of North Carolina considered a motion to abolish its alternative giving plans that allow churches to pick which mission organizations to fund. The motion would have deleted money for the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, Baptist World Alliance and other moderate causes. Messengers voted to keep the convention's four giving plans intact, but observers say a similar action is likely to pass in the future.

The Mississippi Baptist Convention avoided an effort to make the “Baptist Faith and Message” — revised in 2000 to incorporate more conservative views — the convention's doctrinal statement. Instead, messengers voted to make the 2000 statement “a guide for understanding and teaching Baptist doctrine.”

In Alabama, a motion was introduced that would have called for each Alabama Baptist agency to stipulate the Alabama Baptist State Convention as its “sole member,” an action already taken by Southern Baptist agencies to prevent trustees from breaking away from the SBC. The motion was ruled out of order, since convention bylaws say charter changes can come only from those trustees.

In a role reversal in Texas, it was the moderate-controlled Baptist General Convention of Texas that considered, then rejected, an amendment to limit Executive Board representation to churches affiliated solely with the BGCT. The action was aimed at churches dually aligned with the BGCT and the conservative Southern Baptists of Texas Convention.

Prescott, the Mainstream leader from Oklahoma, said the state-level actions by conservatives have been long expected. “Those who have denied it would happen now just don't want to hear about it,” he said. “It's just a matter of how long it will take people to get fed up.”

Prescott said he didn't expect Baptists to tolerate the new restrictions as long as they have. But rather than flocking to alternative groups like Mainstream Baptists and the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, he said, most Baptists have simply chosen to be less involved in denominational life.

He said the restrictive trend is a departure from historical Baptist practice, which has favored congregational autonomy.

But Wills, director of Southern Seminary's Center for the Study of the Southern Baptist Convention, said that deference toward congregational freedom has occurred mostly in the 20th century. “The right for an association or convention to expel churches … has only been questioned at times in the 20th century,” he said.

Local Baptist associations used to enforce doctrinal parameters in the 19th century but are less inclined to now, he said. More recently state and national conventions have taken over that role “by default,” he said.

Wills said the constitutional change in the Florida convention requiring theological integrity is appropriate. But he is “uncertain” about the membership changes proposed in Missouri, which require affiliation with the SBC but prohibit affiliation with the CBF. “I don't think that has any precedent,” he said. “It has some merit, but it may be wrong.”

Wake Forest's Leonard agreed the practice of setting parameters “permeates Baptist life” through the years. The result is fragmentation has been an undeniable part of the Baptist legacy.

Those parameters can be theological or even political, as in the birth of the SBC. The Southern Baptist Convention got its start when Baptists in the North decided slave owners could not be missionaries, causing Baptists in the South to split, Leonard said.

Then and now, “churches have to decide how far they can go with those groups in participating in a certain kind of regimentation,” Leonard said.

Baptists have always been more apt to fragment than split, he said. In recent years, for instance, “small pieces” of the old denominational system have splintered off — such as the colleges that have broken away from state convention control and the new non-SBC seminaries that have emerged, he said. “These are ways in which the system has responded.”

“Everybody is disengaging from the denominational system,” he concluded. “Even people sympathetic [to the conservative direction of the SBC] are not paying attention to their system anymore.”

But rank-and-file Southern Baptists remain reluctant to break away from the Southern Baptist Convention, Leonard acknowledged. What would it take for that to happen?

“Each community has to decide when their community … ceases to be Baptist,” Leonard said.

But is there a point where a convention clearly crosses the line?

“If they started baptizing infants or they start having real bishops instead of de facto ones, then they cease to be Baptist.”

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Storylist for 12/06 issue_120604

Storylist for 12/06/04 issue

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DBU students, faculty fill shoeboxes with love

From Red River to Rio Grande, Paris couple blazes ministry trail for others

HBU, BGCT reach understanding; convention will reduce funding

Handmade lap quilts a labor of undying love for Garland man

Volunteers share love of reading with kids at children's home

Central Texas Christians give record amount to Operation Christmas Child

Mission Arlington volunteers serve 10,000 families

Mobile medical clinic will meet healthcare needs in southern San Antonio

Plainview layman establishes ministry to take a bite out of world hunger

Baptist volunteers spend Thanksgiving holiday serving Irving

100-year-old preacher finally slated to receive seminary master's degree

Temple church opens Great Commission Gallery as ministry

ETBU reaffirms Chinese partnership

Free curriculum offers parents, youth ministers tool to prevent drug abuse

Dispute between Criswell College & contractor to be settled out of court

DBU volunteers build on-campus Habitat house

Hispanic & Anglo churches pool resources, expand ministries

Around the State

On the Move

Texas Tidbits

Previously posted
TBM responds to flooding in Coastal Plains

Denton Baptists use holidays to share the gospel with international students

Baptist University of the Americas seeks BWA associate membership

Prayer partnership sparks revival, DOM says



Baptist state conventions urge ban on same-sex marriage

Seminary attorney clarifies trustee statement

Yarnell declines Louisiana College presidency

Gypsy children receive more than education at Ruth School

'Noose of conformity' tightens in Baptist life, observers assert

Little good news for Baptist World Alliance in state convention meetings

Billy Graham still preaching, filling stadiums at 86

Baptist Briefs



Ugandan faith-based microcredit organization focuses on investing in people



Vermont judge grants child-custody rights to partner in same-sex civil union

Court declines review of same-sex marriage

Poll shows Americans divided over question of evolution vs. creation

Congress includes anti-abortion provision in its omnibus spending package

Previously posted
Rice's selection unlikely to impact religious liberty, observers say

Pro-life Democrat, pro-choice Republican likely to lead Senate



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Texas Baptist Forum

On the Move



EDITORIAL: Celebrating Advent makes the wait worthy of Christmas

DOWN HOME: God, creativity, chaos & beauty

ANOTHER VIEW: 'Jesus' celebrates 25th birthday

TOGETHER: Epicenter Ground zero for revival

Texas Baptist Forum

Cybercolumn by Brett Younger: '…born again in us'



BaptistWay Bible Series for Dec. 12: Jesus reminds his disciples to do what is right

LifeWay Explore the Bible Series for Dec. 12: Remember the mercy God has shown to you

LifeWay Family Bible Series for Dec. 12: Enthusiasm for Christ should be contagious

BaptistWay Bible Series for Dec. 19: Make God the focus of giving, prayers, fasting

LifeWay Explore the Bible Series for Dec. 19: Christmas reminds us of the possibilities

LifeWay Family Bible Series for Dec. 19: Don't neglect praising God this holiday season



See articles from previous issue 11/29/04 here.




Congress includes anti-abortion provision in its omnibus spending package_120604

Posted: 12/03/04

Congress includes anti-abortion
provision in its omnibus spending package

By Robert Marus

ABP Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON (ABP)–Shortly before leaving town for their Thanksgiving break, members of Congress slipped into a spending bill a provision that supporters say limits “discrimination” against anti-abortion hospitals but that opponents say will circumvent state laws intended to guarantee access to abortion services.

The provision–which had gained the House's explicit approval but never the full Senate's –was slipped by House-Senate negotiators into a massive omnibus appropriations package and approved by both chambers of Congress Nov. 20.

The “Abortion Non-Discrimination Act” was added to the bill at the behest of its sponsors, Reps. Dave Weldon (R-Fla.) and Henry Hyde (R-Ill.). Both of the Congressmen are strong opponents of abortion rights.

It would effectively ban states from “discriminating” against health-care entities–including doctors, hospitals and insurers–that refuse to provide women with abortion services or referrals. Federal law already explicitly protects medical students who refuse to go through abortion training.

The bill's proponents said it also already protects other health-care entities from performing abortions but had been misinterpreted as applying only to individuals.

“Without this provision, pro-life hospitals could be forced to participate in the unconscionable killing of innocent human life,” said Tony Perkins, president of the conservative Family Research Council, in a statement on the bill's passage. “Protecting the choice to not perform abortions is a huge win for right-to-life supporters and the pro-life medical community.”

But opponents of the provision said it had the potential to limit access to abortion services for millions of women–particularly women in the 20-plus states that use state money to provide abortion services to Medicaid recipients. Many health-care providers rely on Medicaid funds to provide a full range of services to patients.

The provision “allows any health-care provider or institution, religious or otherwise, to refuse to provide a much-needed reproductive health-care service,” said Gloria Feldt, president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America.

“The bill is not about religious freedom. There is no federal law that requires health-care providers to perform abortions in the first place.”

A dispute on an unrelated matter means the $388 million bill will not be sent to President Bush's desk for a signature until that spat is resolved.

To assuage complaints of abortion-rights supporters in the Senate, Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) agreed to a floor vote soon on a separate bill that would repeal the Weldon-Hyde provision. But observers noted an anti-abortion majority in the House means that bill probably would not pass.

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Around the State_120604

Posted: 12/03/04

Around the State

Four bivocational pastors and their wives were honored during the 18th annual Bivocational Ministers and Spouses Conference. Carlton and Dianna Bailey of Mount Calvary Church of Marysee in Hull were selected as 2004 Exemplary Bivocational Pastor and Wife. Kevin Shipp of Avondale Church in Sweetwater is was named 2004 Exemplary Bivocation Minister of Music. He also is the church's education and children's minister. Two couples were honored for their youth ministry efforts. Sammy and Japana Roberts of Arlington Christian Bible Fellowship in Arlington, and Benji and Kathy Cole of Lone Willow Church in Cleburne were both named 2004 Exemplary Bivocational Youth Ministers.

bluebull Jack Longbotham, retired professor of education at Hardin-Simmons University, and this wife, Elizabeth, have completed a children's book, “The Adventures of Buffalo Bill and Cody.” The volume completes a triology of children's books which seek to foster an appreciation for the buffalo. The Longbothams have buffalo on their ranch. The book is bound in HSU colors and is available in the university bookstore.

Converse Hispanic Church in Converse recently incorporated as a bilingual congregation thanks to Trinity Church in San Antonio. The San Antonio congregation had sponsored the Hispanic mission 20 years, and gifted them the land and facilities there so that church could become a self-supporting body without incurring significant debt. Trinity Pastor Charlie Johnson (left) signed over the deed of trust to Converse Pastor Jesse Aguilar. The congregation also honored retired pastor Jimmy Garcia, founding pastor of the mission.

bluebull The University of Mary Hardin-Baylor newspaper, The Bells, and the yearbook, The Bluebonnet, received national recognition at the Baptist Press Excellence in Journalism conference held in Nashville, Tenn. The Bells won first place overall in its division, and the Bluebonnet received third place overall in the yearbook category. Individual newspaper awards went to Natalie Kaspar, first for in-depth writing, second for column writing and third for front page design; Leslie Helms, first for infographics and second for photo spread; Amanda Dickinson, second for feature writing; and a group of four reporters, third for in-depth writing. Winners of individual yearbook awards were Christi Snow, first for student life copy; Sara Hillis, first and second for portrait spread design; Tiffany Turk, first for creative/artistic photo, second for sports/club design and third for photo spread; and Jacob Sais, third for personality spread.

bluebull Robert Ellison, professor of English at East Texas Baptist University, has contributed a chapter to the book “John Keble in Context.” The chapter is part of Ellison's research in Anglican preaching during the 19th century.

bluebull Loretta Starkey has joined the Hardin-Simmons University staff as coordinator of alumni services. She replaces Shelly Dotson, who has moved to enrollment services as a counselor for new student relations/financial aid.

bluebull Angelique Myers of the University of Mary Hardin-Baylor has been named one of two national recipients of the Public Relations Society of America Multicultural Affairs Scholarship. Each student will receive a $1,500 scholarship. Myers is a reporter for the campus newspaper and also is a mid-day personality on a local radio station. The scholarship was awarded at the society's annual conference held in New York City.

bluebull Hardin-Simmons University's annual All School Sing was dedicated to the school's director of financial aid, Jim Jones and his wife, Nancy. They are members of First Church in Abilene.

bluebull Jud Powell has been elected chairman of the Hardin-Simmons Board of Trustees. He and his wife, Linda, were recipients of the John J. Keeter Jr. Alumni Service Award in 2001. He is a member of First Church in Abilene. Other officers are Clinton Wolf, vice chairman; Norma Schaffer, secretary; and George Gaston, vice chair and assistant secretary.

Anniversaries

bluebull Gordon Hightower, 20th, as pastor of First Church in Canyon Lake, Nov. 14. The congregation presented him with an inscribed silver bowl and a pocket watch, as well as a three-week sabbatical to be taken any time during 2005 and a $2,000 love offering.

bluebull Benito Cardenas, fifth, as pastor of Iglesia Calvario at Living Rock in Robstown, Dec. 1.

bluebull Paul Brand, fifth, as minister of youth and education at First Church in Whitewright, Dec. 5.

Deaths

bluebull Charles Phipps, 76, Oct. 21 in Houston. He was pastor of churches in Texas and California more than 50 years, including two years as an Army chaplain in Germany. He was a member of South Main Church in Pasadena. He was preceded in death by sons James and Don. He is survived by his wife of 55 years, Norma Jeanne; daughter, Ann Manning; and six grandchildren.

Country Church in Mesquite capitalized on the Mary Hill Davis Offering theme of “Plant, Water, Harvest” by having trees that “grew” after being watered by change offerings each week. Not only did the trees grow in height, but they also grew an “apple” for every $25 given. Here, the first and last tree are shown. The church surpassed its $500 goal, with an offering of $850.

bluebull Gene Thompson, 79, Nov. 13 in Denton. Thompson ran the Baptist Center at Broadway Church in Fort Worth almost 40 years. When he retired in 2001, the center was renamed the Gene Thompson Baptist Center to honor his dedication to social work programs. Thompson was a pastor of several North Texas churches during seminary training but then returned to his native Illinois to pursue a master's degree in social work. He returned to Texas in 1963 as associate pastor at Broadway Church. While maintaining his work at the Baptist Center, in the 1980s, he began focusing more on pastoral care–visiting the sick and officiating at funerals. He is survived by his wife, Rosemary; sister, Lora Fay Johnson; daughter, Ann; sons Phil and Todd; and several grandchildren.

bluebull Eddie Dwyer, 92, Nov. 16 in Waco. He was a professor of religion at Baylor University 37 years. His life changed when he became a Christian while attending a revival at age 16. The following night, his father became a Christian, and they attended Bible lessons together. He was student body president at Oklahoma Baptist University. Prior to coming to Baylor, he led a mission on the Osage Indian Reservation in Oklahoma. His time at Baylor included a tenure as the acting chairman of the religion department. He is survived by his wife of 63 years, Velma; son, Paul; daughter, Dee Dee Rich; and three grandchildren.

bluebull Gilbert Gonzalez, 63, Nov. 17 in Corpus Christi. He served five Texas churches as minister of education and was a migrant missionary in Tennessee. He was ordained to the ministry in 1988 at Woodlawn Hills Church in San Antonio. He was director of the Christian Family Center in Corpus Christi from 1992 until his retirement in 2002. He was a member of Primera Iglesia in Corpus Christi. He is survived by his wife, Pauline; daughter, Diana De La Portilla; son, Henry; mother, Maria; brother, George; and five grandchildren.

Licensed

bluebull Timothy Groves to the ministry at Pleasant Grove Church in Dallas.

bluebull Gary Anderson to the ministry at Trinity Church in Kerrville.

Ordained

bluebull Timothy Overton to the ministry at South Avenue Church in Pasadena.

bluebull Jason Bannister, Dwight Bennett, Dell Canright, Terry Evans, Leonard Loughner, David Smith, Rusty Watkins and John Williams as deacons at South Oaks Church in Arlington.

bluebull Jesse Blankenship, Ron Colburn, Barbara Gunnin, Joel Hill and Douglas Washington as deacons at Royal Lane Church in Dallas.

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BaptistWay Bible Series for Dec. 12: Jesus reminds his disciples to do what is right_120604

Posted: 12/03/04

BaptistWay Bible Series for Dec. 12

Jesus reminds his disciples to do what is right

Matthew 5:17-48

By Todd Still

Truett Seminary, Waco

Those who restore older homes and cars have a desire to see them as they were before years of wear and tear took their toll. Instead of consigning a rickety house to a wrecking crew or a corroding car to a salvage yard, they are willing to expend tremendous amounts of time, energy and money on repairs and replacement parts.

This lesson from the Sermon on the Mount features Jesus' instruction to his followers regarding the law. Far from wanting to jettison God-given, time-honored teachings, Jesus demonstrates his commitment to explaining and fulfilling sacred writ. He impresses upon his disciples the perpetuity and indispensability of scriptural commandments (Matthew 5:17-20).

In verses 21-48, Jesus offers instruction on six subjects addressed by Jewish law in the Scriptures–anger (vv. 21-26), adultery (vv. 27-30), divorce (vv. 31-32), oaths (vv. 33-37), retaliation (vv. 38-42) and love of enemies (vv. 43-48). Jesus' intention does not seem to be the abrogation of the law despite discernable and even considerable contrasts between what the law required and what he demands of his disciples. Jesus' principle aim appears to be the restoration of the original purpose of the representative legislation Yahweh had entrusted to Israel.

Before we consider Jesus' instruction on these topics, it may prove helpful to observe that verses 21-48 may be divided into two sections.

David Garland points out a first series begins with the phrase “You have heard that it was said to those of ancient times” (v. 21) and deals with laws from Exodus and Deuteronomy. The second series begins, “Again, you have heard that it was said to those of ancient times” (v. 33) and deals with laws from Leviticus.

Having briefly remarked on verses 17-20 and having considered the contents and structure of 5:21-48, we may now look at each of the subjects Jesus addresses.

Anger

Various Old Testament texts denounce murder and proscribe the death penalty for murderers (Exodus 20:13; 21:12; Deuteronomy 5:17; Leviticus 24:17). Jesus took the matter further and deeper. By underscoring the serious repercussions of anger and verbal assaults, he addresses the underlying attitudes and actions that give rise to the rage and hatred that might prompt one to commit murder (v. 22). Moreover, Jesus offers practical counsel on how to reconcile ruptured relations before injurious actions transpire (vv. 23-26).

Adultery and divorce

While the sixth commandment denounces murder, the seventh commandment prohibits adultery–sexual relations outside marriage (Exodus 20:14; Deuteronomy 5:18). Jesus opposed adultery, but his instruction extends beyond mere negation. Jesus redefines adultery not only as a lustful act but also as a lustful attitude (v. 28). Jesus stresses one must treat sexual lusts seriously lest one become enslaved or destroyed by degrading desires (vv. 29-30).

In verses 31-32, Jesus equates divorce with adultery, except in the event of unchastity. Later in Matthew's Gospel, when he is queried by Pharisees about the Mosaic legislation permitting divorce (Deuteronomy 24:1-4), Jesus says divorce is out of synch with the divine design (19:4-6). He maintains Moses' ruling on divorce was simply an allowance for their ancestors' hard-heartedness (19:7-9). In our time as divorce rates skyrocket, it would be a positive step if Christian couples viewed divorce as a last resort and not a first recourse.

Oaths

The Old Testament instructs individuals to keep vows made to the Lord (Leviticus 19:12; Numbers 30:2; Deuteronomy 23:21). Closing legal loopholes for those who had grown accustomed to swearing by things connected to but not equated with God (such as “heaven,” “earth,” “Jerusalem,” one's “head”), Jesus prohibits oath-taking and promotes a standard where a disciple's simple “yes” or “no” will suffice (vv. 34-37). A world where one's word is one's bond may seem quaint, but it is no less Christian.

Retaliation and love of enemies

Whereas the Old Testament permitted the people of Israel to retaliate in a manner proportionate to a given offense (Leviticus 24:20; Exodus 21:24; Deuteronomy 19:21), Jesus calls his followers to forego retaliation. Turning the other cheek, giving one's inner garment and going a second mile might well shame one's opponents and be a form of passive resistance. Be that as it may, Jesus stops short of advocating aggression against one's oppressors (vv. 39-41). He calls his disciples to be generous and gracious to a fault (v. 42). He enjoins them to love their enemies and pray for their persecutors (v. 44). Even as God gives indiscriminately and liberally to all, so should his children (v. 45). It is no tall order to love those who love us and to greet those who greet us; most everyone can manage that much (vv. 46-47). Those who want to mirror their heavenly Father will have to aim much higher (v. 48).

Discussion question

bluebull Which of these teachings do you feel are most ignored?

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BaptistWay Bible Series for Dec. 19: Make God the focus of giving, prayers, fasting_120604

Posted: 12/03/04

BaptistWay Bible Series for Dec. 19

Make God the focus of giving, prayers, fasting

Matthew 6:1-18

By Todd Still

Truett Seminary, Waco

While no sensible individual admires spiritual pomposity or hypocrisy, no honest person can deny being susceptible to putting on religious airs or playing religious charades. Being a follower of Jesus in no way immunizes one from the temptation to put on a spiritual show or masquerade as a saint.

Jesus' awareness of the human proclivity to parade one's piety before others coupled with his observation of spiritual grandstanders in his own day prompted him to warn his disciples against making their spirituality a spectacle.

He cautions the faithful in Matthew 6:1 to avoid practicing their righteousness before people so they might be noticed by them. To do so, Jesus insists, is to cash in prematurely any heavenly reward one might have accrued for the transitory thrill of human applause.

Discontent to leave his exhortation against piety for the sake of self-promotion on a general level, Jesus proceeds to apply the basic principle he articulates in verse 1 to three particular expressions of spirituality regularly practiced among his Jewish contemporaries–almsgiving (vv. 2-4), prayer (vv. 5-15) and fasting (vv. 16-18).

Before considering Jesus' instructions to his disciples regarding these spiritual exercises, it is worth noting that he presupposes his followers will in fact give alms, pray and fast. And lest we break our arms patting ourselves on the back for being people of spiritual sincerity, we must remind our neglectful, undisciplined selves that at least the hypocrites pilloried in this passage were concerned enough about piety to practice it, even if it was with pride and pretense.

Jesus first addresses almsgiving. Charitable gifts on behalf of the poor often were given by Jews in their synagogues on the Sabbath. Contributions for the impoverished also might be collected in public places. Jesus propounds that those who draw attention to their donations and who seek the affirmation of others for their feigned generosity should expect no spiritual return. The fleeting praise of impressed people is the only dividend they can hope to receive. On the contrary, Jesus calls his disciples not to be self-absorbed in their giving. Instead of seeking to give at those times when others might be looking, Jesus charges his audience to forget about false fronts and to remember they have a Father who sees in secret and rewards in full (vv. 3-4).

Jesus also enjoins his listeners to forego play-acting in their praying. Instead of joining hands in prayer with spiritual pretenders at the front and center of synagogues or at strategic places on street corners, followers of Jesus are instructed to pray in private where no one is watching but God. The purpose of prayer, Jesus implies, is to communicate with the heavenly Father, not to impress others.

It is reported that President Lyndon Johnson once exhorted Bill Moyers to pray more loudly as he was offering a public prayer. In response, Moyers is reported to have said, “Mr. President, with all due respect, I am not talking to you.”

To be sure, Jesus does not prohibit praying in public. Furthermore, when praying aloud in a group, we should speak loudly enough that others might hear. Be that as it may, all of our prayers are to be directed to God. While we are to pray on behalf of people, we are not to pray to impress people, who in the final analysis are mere mortals as are we.

Setting structural symmetry to one side (Note the presence of “when(ever)” in vv. 2, 5, and 16 as well as “but” in vv. 3, 6, and 17. Negating the way hypocrites practice piety (vv. 2, 5, 16), Jesus instructs his disciples how to give alms (vv. 3-4), pray (v. 6), and fast (vv. 17-18).), Jesus continues to teach his followers more fully about prayer. They are not to pray for publicity like the scribes and the Pharisees–the people Jesus most frequently calls hypocrites in Matthew's Gospel (22:18; 23:13-21)–nor are they to pray like Gentiles, who erroneously equate length of prayer with strength of prayer (v. 7). Rather, Jesus' followers may approach the heavenly Father as trusting children, knowing God is aware of our needs and will answer our prayers (6:8; 7:7-11).

When God's people pray, we may do so with simple, intimate reverence–“Our Father, the One who is in the heavens, may your name be blessed” (6:9). Acknowledging our allegiance to God's rule and will (v. 10), we can call upon him for daily provision (v. 11), spiritual restoration (vv. 12, 14-15) and deliverance from temptation and the source thereof (v. 13).

Rounding out this section of instruction on doing righteousness, Jesus tells his listeners not to draw attention to themselves when they fast by disfiguring their faces–smearing ashes or the like on their heads and faces. Instead, Jesus instructs them to go about their regular routines of oiling and combing their heads and washing their faces as they fast (v. 17). As with almsgiving and praying, the disciple's fasting is to be motivated by and directed toward God. Ulterior motives and alternative audiences are unacceptable to a God who sees, knows and loves all.

Discussion questions

bluebull What is the biggest danger in playing religious games?

bluebull What preventative measures can be taken to assure that God remains the focal point?

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Baptist Briefs_120604

Posted: 12/03/04

Baptist Briefs

Baylor dean named Belmont VP. Todd Lake, dean for university life at Baylor University, has been named vice president for spiritual development at Belmont University in Nashville. Lake came to Baylor in 1999 from Wingate University as dean of chapel and minister to the university community. Under Lake's direction, Baylor's university ministries office began Baylor's resident chaplain program, which allows Truett Seminary students to live and minister in 10 residence halls. Other initiatives launched during his tenure include discipline-specific mission trips and service-learning opportunities, sports chaplaincy, graduate and law school Christian fellowships and partnerships with various university departments for chapel speakers. Lake received his bachelor's degree in German studies magna cum laude from Harvard University in 1982. He studied at Princeton Seminary before earning his master of divinity degree in 1988 from Southern Seminary. In 1997, he earned his doctorate in systematic theology with a minor in church history at Boston College.

CBF task force changes name. The Cooperative Baptist Fellowship's ecumenical task force has changed its named to the task force on ecumenism and justice. "We wanted to acknowledge that we, as a task force, were not an ecumenical body because we are composed only of Baptists. But we are Baptists uniting to do the work of ecumenism, justice and interfaith dialogue," said task force member Chris Skidmore, who works as associate director of the Kentucky Council of Churches. The task force plans to develop an ecumenism resource kit for pastors and churches. The kit will include a bibliography of literature about ecumenism and "Building Bridges," a brochure describing the Fellowship's position on ecumenism. Initial versions of the kit will focus on relationships between Christian groups.

National WMU acknowledges Virginia WMU's autonomy. Rather than responding directly to the "declaration of the dignity of women" statement adopted by Virginia Woman's Missionary Union, national WMU Executive Director Wanda Lee simply noted national WMU and Virginia WMU are autonomous organizations. The Virginia WMU declaration alleges discrimination "against women in the work of Christian ministry" and takes particular aim at the 2000 Baptist Faith & Message, which asserts only men are biblically qualified to be pastors." Just as every state Baptist convention is an autonomous body, so is each state WMU organization, particularly as they deal with issues in their state," Lee said. "We respect the autonomy of both bodies and their right to speak for themselves."

Mission tour inspires recording. Dove Award-winning recording artist Bruce Greer has released a new album he compiled after a Cooperative Baptist Fellowship Global Missions tour of Asia. "The Mission," which debuted at October's We Love Missions conference in San Antonio, is a "collage of songs about mission," Greer said. In February, Greer was part of a six-person team from First Baptist Church in Lewisville, sent to explore potential people- group partnerships. As the team rode on a boat passing impoverished people, Greer wrote "Faces," the song that inspired the album. For more information, visit www.brucegreer.com

N.C. church protests woman preacher. Parker's Chapel Missionary Baptist Church in Marion, N.C., voted to withdraw from the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina and the Blue Ridge Baptist Association after learning Anne Graham Lotz had been slated to preach the annual sermon at the state convention. Lotz, daughter of evangelist Billy Graham, delivered the convention message during the meeting in Winston-Salem. Pastor Larry Brown said Lotz is "a fine Christian woman" and "a good teacher and speaker," but her presence in a pulpit or preaching to a state convention is "an affront to the word of God."

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Baptist University of the Americas seeks BWA associate membership_120604

Posted: 12/03/04

Baptist University of the Americas
seeks BWA associate membership

SAN ANTONIO–Baptist University of the Americas has applied for associate membership in the Baptist World Alliance.

At its July meeting in Seoul, South Korea, the Baptist World Alliance General Council amended the international organization's constitution to allow associate membership.

The new membership category was created “to involve Baptist churches and organized Baptist groups in the global ministry of the Baptist World Alliance through prayer, the sharing of resources and participation in the meetings, congresses and conferences of the Baptist World Alliance,” the amendment stated.

“The ministry of churches, organized Baptist groups and the Alliance are all strengthened through this intentional partnership.”

Albert Reyes, president of Baptist University of the Americas, likewise viewed having his institution as an associate member of the BWA as mutually beneficial, as well as a way to make a statement of solidarity in support of the alliance and its member bodies around the world.

“I have stated numerous times that Baptists are at our best when we cooperate with each other,” said Reyes, recently elected president of the Baptist General Convention of Texas.

“I cannot imagine any other stance to take than to say we stand together with the millions of our Baptist brothers and sisters around the world.”

Arnie Adkison, vice president of advancement at Baptist University of the Americas, noted associate membership in the BWA also provides “incredible opportunities” for his school's students.

Ninety percent of the theological university's student body is Hispanic, and 25 percent is international, he noted.

“BWA is the logical global organization for Baptist University of the Americas to participate with,” he said.

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Little good news for Baptist World Alliance in state convention meetings_120604

Posted: 12/03/04

Little good news for Baptist World
Alliance in state convention meetings

By Greg Warner

Associated Baptist Press

FALLS CHURCH, Va. (ABP)– If the Baptist World Alliance, which lost its largest member and funder earlier this year, hoped to recoup some of that funding from state Baptist conventions, the organization got little encouragement during the recent round of convention meetings.

Proposals that could have resulted in more funding for the Baptist World Alliance were defeated in the Alabama and Kentucky Baptist conventions. Meanwhile, the South Carolina Baptist Convention, which already blocked any state funding for the BWA, asked its Woman's Missionary Union to reconsider its relationship to the worldwide fellowship.

On the bright side, however, two moderate state conventions that already forward funds to the BWA–in Texas and Virginia–acted to increase that support.

Last June, the Southern Baptist Convention withdrew its membership and final $300,000 in funding from the Baptist World Alliance, an international umbrella organization representing 211 Baptist bodies. Southern Baptist leaders said BWA harbors theological liberalism, a charge denied by BWA and many of its member groups worldwide.

Since coming under fire from the SBC, the Baptist World Alliance has had some success generating new money from other sources, such as the national Cooperative Baptist Fellowship.

The Baptist General Association of Virginia voted during its Nov. 9-10 meeting to seek BWA membership, perhaps under new rules that permit associate membership for individuals and organizations. And messengers increased BWA funding from $90,000 a year to about $150,000, with half of the increase coming from funds earmarked for the SBC International Mission Board.

The departure of the Southern Baptist Convention means the BGAV gives more money to BWA than any of the 211 member bodies worldwide. The BWA, with its headquarters in Falls Church, Va., has long had close ties with the Virginia association, even though the BGAV has not had membership in the group.

The Baptist General Convention of Texas, meanwhile, formalized its financial support of BWA by making the organization a permanent part of one of its funding plans for world missions.

Churches that choose the “BGCT World Missions Initiatives” plan will contribute 5 percent of their mission gifts to BWA.

Based on October 2004 year-to-date annualized figures, 5 percent of the BGCT worldwide initiatives would amount to about $38,000, said David Nabors, treasurer and chief financial officer.

Elsewhere, however, state Baptist conventions have been reluctant to get involved in the controversy over the Baptist World Alliance.

Messengers to the Alabama Baptist State Convention defeated an amendment to their $41.5 million budget to siphon $30,000 earmarked for the SBC Executive Committee and send it to the BWA. The motion failed on a show-of-hands vote.

At the Kentucky Baptist Convention, messengers narrowly defeated a proposal from the convention's mission board to establish a study committee to examine how the convention “may relate to the Baptist World Alliance.” An opponent noted a study was not necessary because the Southern Baptist Convention had already studied the issue and determined to withdraw BWA funding.

In South Carolina, convention messengers adopted a resolution asking the national Woman's Missionary Union, as well as the convention's WMU affiliate, to “consider their relationship with the Baptist World Alliance and its Women's Department.” The resolution affirmed South Carolina's WMU for its “longstanding decision not to forward or channel any financial or other support” to the BWA's Women's Department, which promotes leadership development, empowerment, prayer and evangelism among women worldwide.

Spokeswoman Wendy Ryan said the BWA was not counting heavily on new funding from state Baptist conventions, so the actions in Kentucky and Alabama are not a major setback. The BWA expects its new membership policy to increase funding and involvement of individuals and groups around the world, not just in the United States.

But Ryan said it's too early to tell if the BWA will be able to replace the money–$425,000 until recent years–historically contributed by the Southern Baptist Convention. Those payments ran out only last month.

“The jury is still out on that,” she said. “We have to wait a while longer.”

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Hispanic & Anglo churches pool resources, expand ministries_120604

Posted: 12/03/04

Hispanic & Anglo churches pool resources, expand ministries

By George Henson

Staff Writer

DALLAS–Members of Cockrell Hill and Hampton Place Baptist churches in Dallas believe in the power of synergy. Merging their congregations has provided a wealth of assets that exceeds what the two churches held apart from each another.

Hampton Place Baptist Church was not looking to move, but events earlier in the year left members no choice. The Dallas Independent School District wanted to build a new elementary school in the Oak Cliff neighborhood, but a drive around the area by officials left them scratching their heads as to where.

Representatives of Cockrell Hill and Hampton Place Baptist churches in south Dallas publicly sign legal papers to merge their congregations.

They went back to the school district's offices, pulled out and map and saw a large open area they had missed, so they drove back to the location.

It was the parking lot of Hampton Place Baptist Church.

“I told them, 'I don't think so–we've got people who have been here for 50 years and I don't think they will go for that,” Pastor Rolando Rodriguez told officials wanting to buy the church's property.

He could have added that he didn't want to move either, he said.

School officials, while cordial, made it plain that the district would take the property in the courts using the eminent domain clause, Rodriguez said.

After discussing the matter with deacons, Rodriguez said the church decided that rather than tying up funds in a legal fight it would most likely lose, Hampton Place should negotiate for the best possible price.

As soon as the decision to sell the property was made, Hampton Place created three teams to investigate the church's next step.

One team checked into the possibility of merging with another congregation, another the prospect buying property in the area to build upon and a third looked into securing a temporary location.

“Our main thing was that we wanted to stay in the area. The church had a long history of ministry to this community, and we wanted to continue that,” Rodriguez said.

It quickly became apparent that purchasing land in the area would be cost-prohibitive, and “merging looked like a better option every time we looked at it,” he said.

Initially, Hampton Place considered another church in the area, but leaders soon decided its facilities were too small. Rodriquez was contemplating the church's next step when he received a call from Ed Cole, pastor of Cockrell Hill Baptist Church.

“We didn't want to come to Cockrell Hill and didn't think they would be open to considering it, but we were wrong–I was wrong. I thought if he called us, maybe God was in it.”

The merger has been a great thing for both churches, Cole said. The Cockrell Hill congregation was dwindling.

“We were having people join still, but since our congregation was aging, I also was preaching a lot of funerals,” he said.

“We were slowly dwindling. Also, those that we were losing were tithers, and many of our new members had not matured to that point, so finances were getting tighter.”

It also was a primarily Anglo congregation in a community that is 80 percent Hispanic.

The congregations met together for some months but maintained separate bank accounts until all the legal paperwork was in place.

The congregations officially became one Nov. 21, retaining the Cockrell Hill Baptist Church name.

Cole will lead an English-language service, Rodriguez will lead the Spanish-language service and Gus Reyes, formerly youth pastor at Hampton Place, will lead a contemporary service in English on Saturday nights.

“We don't have a senior pastor, but a pastoral team–Pastor Ed, Pastor Rolando and Pastor Gus,” Rodriguez explained.

The church also will be the site for a Laotian mission that formerly met at Hampton Place.

Sunday school will be provided in both Spanish and English.

“That's what we can now provide since we are together,” Rodriguez said.

The Hampton Place congregation also is bringing the $2.5 million it received from the sale of its facility to the school district.

“By coming together, we didn't have to buy property or build, so the money is going to take this church very far in ministry,” Rod- riguez said.

“With the resources we have, our goal is to reach 1,000 in Sunday school.”

Prior to the merger, Cockrell Hill had about 100 people attending, with another 20 people coming to a Spanish-language mission. Hampton Place had about 300 people in attendance each week.

About 450 people watched as the incorporation papers were signed Nov. 21, uniting the congregations during a joint service.

The service was in four languages, Rodriguez pointed out–English, Spanish, Laotian and American sign language.

While the Hampton Place congregation did not initially want to move, Rodriguez said, members now are excited about the prospects for ministry.

The Oct. 31 vote to merge with Cockrell Hill was unanimous, he noted.

Many of the younger Hispanic families now attend the English-language services.

On a Sunday in early November, 173 people attended the traditional English-language service, and 173 people also attended the Spanish-language service.

The extra activity at the Cockrell Hill church has been noticed by the surrounding community, both Cole and Rodriguez agreed.

“We had families who told us, 'Once you merge, we're going to join.' But they didn't wait; they joined before the merger,” Rodriguez said.

The Cockrell Hill congregation is pleased as well, Cole said. “We've seen it as so obviously God's hand on all of this. We now have a healthy older congregation, a healthy younger congregation, a healthy Spanish outreach and a new Laotian outreach.”

“Things had to change for this church to reach this community, and this has enabled us to do that,” he added.

The congregation not only wants to reach the surrounding community, but also to be active on mission in other places as well, Rodriguez said.

“We're going to be sending groups to do missions around the state, to Mexico and hopefully around the world,” he said. “God has given us so much, so we're just having to say, 'God guide us, send us.' He's given us the resources, and all we have to do is work hard.”

Blending the congregations will be a learning process, but it is being done with eyes open, Cole said.

“We know they have different music, time schedules and traditions, but we recognize that and respect that. I don't think it will be a problem,” he said.

Cole and Rodriguez also don't believe the shared mantle of pastor will be a problem.

“We are all pastors, but we each have our areas of responsibility,” Rodriguez said.

“Pastor Ed handles matters related to the traditional English service. I am responsible for the Spanish service. And Pastor Gus takes care of the contemporary service.

“Pastor Ed and I may not always agree, but we will have a third person there to help us settle our disagreements in Pastor Gus,” Rodriguez explained.

So far, those disagreements have not come. “I'm really enjoying this time of ministry,” he continued.

Rodriguez contended the merged churches really are one congregation.

“We are one church, but the ministry differences and cultural differences are big enough that we do handle it as three ministries,” he explained.

To help maintain a unity of spirit, members from each of the three distinct services will worship together every three months, he said.

Having more than one pastor really is an asset, Rodriguez asserted. “We have different personalities and ministry approaches, but our differences are really our strength,” he said.

“The key is that we both trust and respect each other,” Cole added.

“We had to put our egos aside. You can't have an ego and have something like this work,” Rodriguez pointed out.

“We were both senior pastors of our churches, but now we have to share that. It's not about a position or a title. It's all about ministry. It's all about Jesus.”

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